Not convinced O'Loughlin's gonna make this. Why's Ferres on the plane to SA if he's not going to take part? Burrow as an extra 7/9 option makes more sense if Sinfield's likely to play 13.

Tomkins
Charnley
Watkins
Cudjoe (options are very thin at left centre)
Hall
Sinfield
Widdop
Graham
McIlorum
G Burgess
Westwood
S Burgess
O'Loughlin

Subs
Mossop
Hill
Hock
Roby

Sure Roby is not soft, I probably used the wrong term there. But in hookers you generally do have two types. Its the toughest position on the pitch as they are in the thick of it constantly. Some hookers get there head down and graft the work load that the position demands and hit back with finesse, Roby. Others use the work load to channel aggression and stamp their authority on the game, which McIlorum tends to try and do every week. Using both of them would be brilliant.

1. Tomkins
2. Charnley
3. Watkins (if fit, if not then Hardaker)
4. Cudjoe
5. Hall
6. Sinfield
7. Widdop
8. Graham
9. Roby
10. Hill
11. Westwood
12. Farrell
13. S. Burgess

14. Burrow
15. G. Burgess
16. O'Loughlin
17. Mossop

1. Tomkins
2. Charnley
3. Cudjoe
4. Watkins
5. Hall
6. Chase
7. Sinfield
8. Hill
9. McIlorum
10. Mossop
11. Westwood
12. S Burgess
13. O'Loughlin

14. G Burgess
15. Graham
16. Hock
17. Roby

But I change my mind all the time. If Inglis manages to come back from injury, I'd definitely want Cudjoe on his side rather than Watkins to try and match his strength - I'm sick of him running through our lighter players.

I'm warming to the idea of starting with McIlorum, he is a real asset when it comes to bruising the opposition early, and I think that's perfect in the tougher games. Against Ireland I'd be more tempted to start Roby and keep Burrow on the bench.

I'd put Graham and Roby on at the 15-20 minute mark and ideally leave them on for the rest of the match from that point (McIlorum can fill in as a defensive lock later on). I'm just slightly concerned that the props are a bit inexperienced to start this way (I'd prefer to start Crabtree and one of Mossop/Hill). Hock is a risk I'd take vs Australia, but I'm not sure I'd bother with him in the games we 'should' win - he's just a way to up the risk.

FB - Sam Tomkins (Wigan)
W - Josh Charnley (Wigan)
C - Leeroy Cudjoe (Huddersfield) / Zak Hardaker (Leeds)
C - Kallum Watkins (Leeds)
W - Ryan Hall (Leeds)
SO - Gareth Widdop (Melbourne)
SH - Rangi Chase (Castleford)
P - Sam Burgess (South Sydney)
H - Michael Mcilorum (Wigan)
P - Lee Mosop (Wigan)
SR - Ben Westwood (Warrington)
SR - Carl Ablett (Leeds)
L - Kevin Sinfield (Capt.)(Leeds)
Sub - George Burgess (South Sydney)
Sub - James Graham (Canterbury Bulldogs)
Sub - Gareth Hock (Widnes) / Tom Burgess (South Sydney)
Sub - Robbie Burrow (Leeds)

Tom Briscoe (Hull), Liam Farrell (Wigan), Chris Hill (Warrington) Sean O'Loughlin (Wigan), James Roby (St Helens),

1 Tomkins.
2 Charnley.
3 Ablett.
4 O'loughlin.
5 Hall.
6 Widdop.
7 Sinfield.
8 Graham.
9 Roby.
10 G. Burgess.
11 Westwood.
12 Farrell.
13 S. Burgess.
14 McIlorum.
15 Hock.
16 Hill.
17 Mossop.

This is my 17 as a decent defending side although my chosen centres are out of position they are both capable of doing a job on inglis/jennings and co and i think the halfs would stick to a game plan better with burgess aT 13 playing as a third prop as they do in the NRL.

1. Tomkins
2. Charnley
3. Watkins
4. Ablett
5. Hall
6. Widdop
7. Sinfield
8. Graham
9. McIllorum
10. Hill
11. S.Burgess
12. Westwood
13. O'Loughlin

14. G.Burgess
15. T.Burgess
16. Hock
17. Roby

I think the form Ablett has been in he offers more than Cudjoe personally, and his wind up merchant stuff could work against the Ozzies. I'd definitely go with McIllorum to start, he's brutal at times and will hurt the opposition (he's rarely dirty, but hard enough to make opposition fans cry that he is all the time.)

I've gone with Widdop over Chase as I don't think Chase can stick to structures and plays for himself to much, Widdop has the rugby brain we need. As a Wigan fan it hurts me to say it, but I wouldn't have Mossop anywhere near the England set up going on form, he's been largely anonymous this season and has always lacked aggression and has been consistently out performed by Taylor in the Wigan side this year, so I'll give his spot to T.Burgess.

To the guy that thinks O'Loughlin coming back from injury will miss tackles, you need your head shaking pal, O'Loughlin is the definition of a human clamp.

Hock is a risk, but a necessary one I think, we need ruthless aggression against Aus. Only issue is we need that ruthless aggression to be controlled, can this ever be the case with Hock? I'm doubtful, but like I said, a necessary risk.

Tomkins
Charnley
Watkins
Cudjoe
Hall
Sinfield
Chase
S Burgess
Roby
Graham
Hock
Westwood
O'Loughlin

Hill
Ablett
Widdop
G Burgess

1. Tomkins
2. Charnley
3. Watkins
4. Cudjoe
5. Hall
6. Widdop
7. Chase
8. Graham
9. Sinfield
10. Mossop
11. Hock
12. S Burgess
13. O'Loughlin

14. Roby
15. G Burgess
16. Hill
17. Westwood

Tomkins
Charnley
Watkins
Cudjoe
Hall
Chase
Widdop
Hill
Sinfield
Graham
Westwood
S. Burgess
O'Loughlin

Roby
Hock
G. Burgess
Mossop/T Burgess

For me, this is a strong side, good craft and invention from the pivots, Sinfield can control the game from 9. And lots of power and grunt up front. Sinfield to drop back to 13 when SOL gets a spell, with Roby coming on.

Tough call on Mossop and TB. Both are good players, Mossop the steadier, but Tom the bulldozer, but without a bit of mobility.

Tomkins
Hall
Ablett
Watkins
Charnley
Widdop/Chase
Sinfield
Graham
McLlorum
Hill
Westwood
S Burgess
O'Loughlin

Roby
G Burgess
Mossop
Hock

So people are saying we should play McIlorum, purely on the basis that he's a bit aggressive? Really?

He's a very good hooker, who is raw boned, aggressive and tackles well above his weight and will get into the faces and not take a backwards step against anyone. A lot of people think that is just what England need against the Aussies to wear them down before bringing on the speed and class of Roby, I agree with them.

1. Tomkins
2. Charnley
3. Watkins
4. Cudjoe
5. Hall
6. Sinfield
7. Chase
8. Gurgess
9. Roby
10. Graham
11. Farrell
12. Westwood
13. Surgess

14. Turgess
15. Hill
16. Hock
17. Burrow

Widdop can't play 7.