This isn't difficult.

If the VR can see the ball is clearly thrown forward out of the hands then it's disallowed.

If there is any doubt, benefit has to go to attacking side.

Regarding listening to what they ask, asking the VR to "check the grounding" is passing the book.

The on field ref should say, for example, I think Tomkins has grounded that ball before he is in touch. Can you tell me otherwise.

Then if the VR says, well actually Richard, his foot is in touch.

Then the on field ref has had his decision proved wrong.

This is embarrassing.

This is absolutely no different to what happens now. The assumption is that a try has been scored, so when the VR is asked to "check the grounding" - or indeed anything else - he is looking to confirm or deny the decision already made by the on field ref. It's just semantics.

Quite a lot of fans' anger at decisions comes from not actually understanding what is going on and/or the relevant laws.

Which is not to say that I think the current crop of officials are much cop, by the way. But at least focus on the real problems - numbers of referees and training - rather than tinkering with mechanisms that are mostly working as intended.

The problems there, once again, are camera angles and subjectivity.

I think the OP is still a little down about Hull beating his team on Sunday. But lets take one of the incidents which they are moaning about into consideration.

For Rich Whitings try, at first glace, Holdsworths pass appears forward. From a static camera angle, the ball appears to drift forward in comparison to the grass lines on the pitch. The fact is, when you see holdsworths hand position on the ball at the point of passing, he throws it in a backward direction and his own speed inertia is what makes the ball appear to go forward in comparison to the ground.

All of which is irrelevant as its the motion of the ball in comparison to the block chucking it.

I bet Mr Sandercock has signed it. He spends almost as much time moaning about referees as he does looking tired and miserable.

Dear RFL,

Please could you fix it for me never to have to witness my team losing.

Lots of love,

Scott
Preston Road

lol...when he was asked where the cash would come from he kind of shot himself in the foot on the London board

Motorised transport is at a premium over in East Hull...

Good on the HKR fans involved, hope they raise plenty for their chosen charity

Oh and ScottHKR, give up mate, you appear to be having around a 0.001% sucess rate around the forums for your petition, however if you are trying to boost your number of posts then crack on.

He's signed it at least twice, his first comments are the best.