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After reading Bovrick's post I'll change my mind and say Samoa should comfortably be the 4th best team if they get commitments from a lot of those players mentioned.

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Big mal is coaching png and they've got some decent NRL players in the squad. Png RL has been spending big on development of the kumuls.

The "2nd tier" is really exciting as you have four, possibly five, very strong equal teams. Take you pick from ong, Fiji, Samoa, tonga and possibly Italy.

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Quote: The Back Line "Scotland will shock people though and I reckon are on for the 1/4 finals with Wallace and Brough kicking to some quality Aussies as well. Linnet is very under rated.'"


See, I have a feeling about Scotland myself, and not just because they will be my 2nd team in the competition. They do have some quality players in their squad, and I think they can produce a shock or two.

Just be prepared though for someone to question your knowledge about RL just because they disagree with you.....

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Wales have a quality pack but not much in the backs unless Briers plays. If he does I reckon they can be the 4th team.

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Quote: CM Punk "Wales have a quality pack but not much in the backs unless Briers plays. If he does I reckon they can be the 4th team.'"


Scotland and Wales are like a mirror image of one another. The backs of Scotland could do some serious damage, as long as their forwards don't get smashed. The biggest problem for Wales is in the spine (which is probably the opposite of where they were at in 2000), whereas for Scotland they have probably the form SL half, a steady half with lots of experience and good defence, and a lot of depth in the hooking role.

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I think France's strength will depend if Dureau makes himself available for them.

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France concern me a bit, 90% of the squad is made up of an upper mid-table SL side. Until they get more players at other SL/NRL clubs they're going to struggle. Expect lots of errors and a high penalty count from them as usual.

Wales look pretty strong, but is Lee Briers playing?? Thought he'd retired?

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Quote: Tre Cool "
Wales look pretty strong, but is Lee Briers playing?? Thought he'd retired?'"


Quite probably not, but I hope he does, Wales really need him. Like I said there's probably quite a few on that list that won't play for those nations. Jennings, T.Williams, Hayne, Uate, RTS, McIllorum etc probably won't play for the teams listed there, more likely to take squad positions in the Australia/New Zealand/England camps (or in Williams' case just not play).

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Quote: Tre Cool "France concern me a bit, 90% of the squad is made up of an upper mid-table SL side. Until they get more players at other SL/NRL clubs they're going to struggle. Expect lots of errors and a high penalty count from them as usual.
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That's exactly what the "world" cup needs.... More Aussies/English withlinks to minor nations. Didn't Jamie Peacock have a packet of French Fries the other day ??? Get him in the France squad icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: Cas Till I Die "That's exactly what the "world" cup needs.... More Aussies/English withlinks to minor nations. Didn't Jamie Peacock have a packet of French Fries the other day ??? Get him in the France squad
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he missed the point! The reason the Kiwis are now so competitive is because there are NZ eligible players in every NRL club and plenty of SL clubs, they don;t just rely on the NZ Warriors to supply talent. Better jnr programmes in France along with Toulouse in SL and better scouting by SL and NRL clubs to identify and bring through French players would lead to a much much stronger French national side.

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Good point that JB, it will take a while for the Catalans to start getting players through and into other clubs, we have seen a few and Casty is off. The quality of some of their French youth players is supposed to be superb, Escare being the first youth player to break into the side.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: Bovrick "From what I gather, potential NRL/SL players for each team may be (including some that probably won't)Clint Newton (Penrith Panthers); Nathan Massey (Castleford Tigers); Ryan McGoldrick (Salford City Reds?)

WalesBen Evans, Elliot Kear (Bradford Bulls); Michael Channing, Daniel Fleming (Castleford Tigers); Craig Kopczak (Huddersfield Giants); Jordan James (if he still fancies playing); Garreth Carvell, Lee Briers, Rhys Evans, Rhys Williams (Warrington Wolves); Phil Joseph, Lloyd White (Widnes Vikings); Gil Dudson, Ben Flower, Rhodri Lloyd, Andy Powell (Wigan Warriors)

Ireland, [Ben Kavanagh?] (Widnes Vikings); Pat Richards, Michael McIlorum (Wigan Warriors)

ScotlandMatthew Russell (Gold Coast Titans); James McManus (Newcastle Knights); Kane Linnett (North Queensland Cowboys); Keith Galloway (Wests Tigers); Daryl Clarke, Jonathan Walker, Lee Gilmour (Castleford Tigers); Ian Henderson (Catalans Dragons); Danny Brough, Dale Ferguson, Joe Wardle (Huddersfield Giants); Richard Horne (Hull FC); Graeme Horne, Rhys Lovegrove, Cory Patterson, Adam Walker (Hull KR); Liam Hood (Leeds Rhinos); Ben Fisher, Michael Robertson (London Broncos);

FranceTheo Fages (Salford City Reds); Antoni Maria, Damien Cardace, David Guasch, Eloi Pelissier, Frederic Vaccari, Gregory Mounis, Jamal Fakir, Jason Baitieri, Jean-Phillippe Baile, Julian Bousquet, Kevin Larroyer, Mathias Pala, Michael Simon, Morgan Escare, Oliver Elima, Remi Casty, Thomas Bosc, Vincent Duport, William Barthau etc (Catalans Dragons)

ItalyDavid Mead (Gold Coast Titans); Neville Costigan (Newcastle Knights); Tyson Martin, Ray Thompson (North Queensland Cowboys); James Segeyaro (Penrith Panthers); Jason Chan (Huddersfield Giants); Paul Aiton (Wakefield Wildcats) [then below this they have championship players like Yere, and a stronger domestic competition than the rest, bar [imaybe[/i France]

FijiSisa Waqa (Melbourne Storm); Akuilla Uate, Kevin Naiqama, Korbin Sims (Newcastle Knights); Ashton Sims, Tariq Sims (North Queensland Cowboys); Jarryd Hayne, Jacob Loko, Semi Radradra (Parramatta Eels); Wes Naiqama (Penrith Panthers); Kane Evans (Sydney Roosters); John Sutton (South Sydney Rabbitohs); Marika Koroibete, Lote Tuquiri (Wests Tigers) + Petero Civoniceva (Redcliffe Dolphins)

SamoaTim Lafai (Canterbury Bulldogs); Mark Taufua, Matthew Wright (Cronulla Sharks); Steve Matai (Manly Sea-Eagles); Junior Sa'u, Lagi Setu (Melbourne Storm); Carlos Tuimavave (New Zealand Warriors); Kalifa Faifai Loa, Antonio Winterstein (North Queensland Cowboys); Ben Roberts (Parramatta Eels); Mose Masoe (Penrith Panthers); Roy Asotasi, Jeff Lima, Ben Te'o (South Sydney Rabbitohs); Leeson Ah Mau, Daniel Vidot (St George Dragons); Lama Tasi, Roger Tuivasa-Sheck (Sydney Roosters); Masada Iosefa, Eddy Pettybourne, Matt Utai (Wests Tigers); David Faiumu (Huddersfield Giants); Constantine Mika (Hull KR); Kylie Leuluai (Leeds Rhinos); Francis Meli, Tony Puletua (St Helens); Ali Lauitiiti (Wakefield Wildcats); Patrick Ah Van, Willie Isa, Frank Winterstein (Widnes Vikings); Harrison Hansen (Wigan Warriors)

TongaKonrad Hurrell, Feleti Mateo (New Zealand Warriors); Siuatonga Likiliki, Willie Mason (Newcastle Knights); Jason Taumalolo (North Queensland Cowboys); Taniela Lasalo, Fuifui Moimoi, Willie Tonga (Parramatta Eels); Sika Manu (Penrith Panthers); Atelea Vea (St George Dragons); Michael Jennings, Samisoni Langi, Sam Moa, Michael Oldfield, Nafe Seluini (Sydney Roosters); Ben Murdoch-Masila (Wests Tigers); Manase Manuokafoa (Bradford Bulls); Lopini Paea (Catalans Dragons); Ukuma Ta'ai (Huddersfield Giants); Mickey Paea (Hull KR); Antonio Kaufusi (London Broncos); Willie Manu (St Helens); Epalahame Lauaki (Wigan Warriors)'"


If ever anyone asks why RL will never grow as a truly international sport, feel free to just cut and post this ^

Excluding a very average FRANCE, 7 countries and only 30 players representing them born in that country?
4 a pop on average?


Makes the English cricket team look positively...er....English

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There's 28 countries listed in the RLIF Nov 2012 World Rankings, so I'd suggest that there is a significant international base.

Its probably worth noting that many of these countries have no professional leagues, hence for an international tournament their best representative players aren't those who were necessariliy born there, but those that meet RLIF representative criteria.

However this does not mean that there is no RL being played outside the UK and Australisia, just that its profile isn't as high as other sports, something that the RLWC will improve.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: shinymcshine "There's 28 countries listed in the RLIF Nov 2012 World Rankings, so I'd suggest that there is a significant international base.'"

as an amateur sport, I agree 100%....but RL is a professional sport and 75% of the players at RLWC XIV will be born in England, NZ and Australia.

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