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Got to admit I think Dave Woods and Nobby as co-commentator make a good team, especially as they also do the championship on premier. Chappers seems to be making a really good fist of it aswell as anchor for the beeb. Not to mention of co Tanya on the touchline.

Sky on the other hand are awful. Hemmings and his mate are cringeworthy, Carney is a Hemmings wanna be with his copycat "Manna from heaven" type comments. Then there's Baz and Tez Studd and Arthur. I don't mind Jon Wells and Phil Clark but they have boring statto type roles.

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Quote: Salford red all over "Then there's Baz and Tez '"


If they had a braincell between them, they could rub them both together and make smoke !

As it is they only have the one braincell between them.

Talk about appealing to the lowest common denominator.

Between them and Hemmings and even Clarkey, who bores the hell out of most people with his stats.

Wretched !

I have loved the game since the 1950s, but these pundits make the canal an easy option.

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Sky had one thing when they first started, the option to blank the comentators & just have crowd noise please bring it back.

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Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "I like Chapman, afaik he doesn't have a rugby league background but like with Clair Balding he seems to have really taken to the game and speaks with real enthusiasm about it.'"


He studied at the University of Hull and watched Hull a few times at The Boulevard.

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Quote: Salford red all over "Got to admit I think Dave Woods and Nobby as co-commentator make a good team, especially as they also do the championship on premier. Chappers seems to be making a really good fist of it aswell as anchor for the beeb. Not to mention of co Tanya on the touchline.

Sky on the other hand are awful. Hemmings and his mate are cringeworthy, Carney is a Hemmings wanna be with his copycat "Manna from heaven" type comments. Then there's Baz and Tez Studd and Arthur. I don't mind Jon Wells and Phil Clark but they have boring statto type roles.'"

I would disagree with Carney and Studd, I think they are both very competent pundits, as is Clarke (although he is well on the way to becoming a caricature with his stats). Carney and Clarke often reign in the more ridiculous and uninformed aspects of Eddie and Stevo's commentary when they are assigned to the same game. It has a tendency to sound like a teacher trying to reason with his unruly pupils. Stevo is especially bad, he will latch on to an opinion and even when Clarke or Carney point out the actual laws of the game and how Stevo is wrong he will dismiss them with "it doesn't matter!"

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Well done the BBC - Crabtree is intelligent and informative.Far superior to Skys tired presentation.

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Agree with comments already made and a vast improvement on French and Davies.
On the flip side though, there was plenty going on in yesterdays game.
Played at breakneck speed, plenty of errors, some excellent tries and when Monaghan tipped the ball back inside on the last play I thought Wire would score.

All good stuff !

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Think Mark Chapman is from Oldham originally but brought up in Nrth Manchester so should know his stuff. He mentioned about watching the 85 final as a kid too so he's not a total newcomer.

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I do like the way they're starting to groom some of the players for media careers, but they do need to be slightly more selective sometimes. Eorl obviously does a great job on TV and the radio, Wilkin is slowly starting to move into the sphere (imo he has potential), Tomkins needs a little more work on the media side, but at least he's getting exposure. Whereas Peacock et al unfortunately are never going to be the best to put in front of a camera, through no fault of their own.

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the sight of Ian Millward stood next to Eorl Crabtree & Mark Chapman is pure comedy.
sure the Beeb gives Millward a oversized microphone to boot.

A couple more Camera positions would help but the use of current players & coaches and good commentators like Woods. means there's a steady stream of relevant points being raised rather than soundbites & cliche's.

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Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "Didn't know that, just that he doesn't come across as being particularly knowledgeable but makes up for it with his enthusiasm and skill as a presenter. Regardless he is still a good guy to have involved. Shame Sky can't find someone similar.'"


Don't let the BBC presenter front fool you. He's a northerner from Rochdale and Sale. He'll be well aware of the Wigan success of the 80's/90's and our little northern sport that is "The greatest game in the world" eusa_clap.gif

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My only gripe with the BBC's coverage is at HT when Robbie pesters a clearly knackered player for an interview as they're walking off the pitch. Other than that it's fantastic and far superior to Sky.

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I've been impressed with Wilkin. He might be a whinging tart on Grand Final day but both on the bbc and whenever he's been interviewed as head of the players union he's come across well.

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Sunday's presentation was a breath of fresh air - the pre-match stuff with Mark Chapman and Big Eorl was excellent; not keen on Millward's involvement though - he's too prone to Stevo style monologues, where he loses himself part way through and ends up talking tripe. I also found RHP's interjections a bit jarring - clumsy and a bit amateurish.

The in-match commentary from Dave Woods was the highlight for me - he seems able to speak fluently about the game without the need to look for controversy, or to gush about one player in particular; a massive improvement over Hemmings.

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