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| Why don’t we just play France and Wales?
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| I'd like to see the Roses match/series brought back, but not half-hearted, not sacked of after a couple of years - given a decent amount of effort and time to grow. Obviously the Exiles concept is still in it's infancy, but given the strength of the NRL, I can't see the series lasting too long.
There seems to be a bigger pool of talent than there was 10 years ago too.
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| I think it's a great idea but would like to see it be 3 games straight away rather than 1 then 2 the next year and so on. To me, having 1 game to see how it goes is expecting failure. Have a 3 game series for 3-4 years guaranteed and see how it grows. If it takes off then instead of having magic weekend, you just take these games on the road. We need to have the attitude that it will work and we need to ensure all clubs buy in and the RFL need to have the balls to not back down to the clubs.
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| Lets look at the facts...
England vs Exiles, whilst a good training exercise, is a bit of a damp squib and will never be anything more than a friendly. I still think there's a place for it, but I'd have it as a warm up for the international tournament straight after the GF. Not as a mid season event.
England vs France/Wales will be uncompetitive for a very long time mid-season. Sticking 50-60 points on a team achieves nothing for either side.
Yorkshire vs Lancashire would be competitive, but would it bring the fans out? Lancashire isn't even Lancashire anymore really, is it?
Think it's a lose-lose situation to be honest. None of these will achieve what we really want: a highly competitive representative game with some meaning and passion from both sides to make into an event.
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| Because passion and meaning are built not invented. Our entire international existence seems to exist only in relation to Australia. Its ridiculous. The point of representative RL isn’t to beat Australia, its to play representative RL. Play France and the home nations. It is a valid use of our time, even if we win comfortably. At their best, Wales and France can be competitive, the more we play them the more we will get them at their best, the more we get them at their best the more likely they are to win. Lets play Italy, PNG, Samoa, Fiji. Lets get together with the ARL and set aside 2/3/4 weekends within the season set aside for international RL. Stand-alone weekends. If we need we can use Origin Weekends for internationals. If a player is unavailable for the international team, he is unavailable for the SL/NRL team for the next week.
Lets build an international game, prioritise and most of all, lets do the most basic building block of an international calendar, playing bloody international games
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| Quote: Wellsy13 "Lets look at the facts...
England vs Exiles, whilst a good training exercise, is a bit of a damp squib and will never be anything more than a friendly. I still think there's a place for it, but I'd have it as a warm up for the international tournament straight after the GF. Not as a mid season event.
England vs France/Wales will be uncompetitive for a very long time mid-season. Sticking 50-60 points on a team achieves nothing for either side.
Yorkshire vs Lancashire would be competitive, but would it bring the fans out? Lancashire isn't even Lancashire anymore really, is it?
Think it's a lose-lose situation to be honest. None of these will achieve what we really want
That's the problem with Lancashire I'm from warrington and have always been brought with knowledge warrington is in Cheshire, so just like last time a lancashire
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| Quote: Wellsy13 "Lets look at the facts...
England vs Exiles, whilst a good training exercise, is a bit of a damp squib and will never be anything more than a friendly. I still think there's a place for it, but I'd have it as a warm up for the international tournament straight after the GF. Not as a mid season event.
England vs France/Wales will be uncompetitive for a very long time mid-season. Sticking 50-60 points on a team achieves nothing for either side.
Yorkshire vs Lancashire would be competitive, but would it bring the fans out? Lancashire isn't even Lancashire anymore really, is it?
Think it's a lose-lose situation to be honest. None of these will achieve what we really want
That's the problem with Lancashire I'm from warrington and have always been brought up with the knowledge warrington is in Cheshire, so just like last time a lancashire vs Yorkshire would mean nothing to me...
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| I think Arriva sponsored the last one because I had the Yorkshire shirt. However like anything else rugby league it needs support and rugby league supporters must be the most negative people on the planet.
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| How about some terminology mentioning the Pennines, East of the Pennines v West of the Pennines, this could then include London and Cumbria. Surely the marketing men could hang their hat on that. Not "over t ill" though, no, not that.
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| Can only be Lancashire and Yorkshire, LAncashire is and allways WAS north of the mersey, that include warrington!
Merseyside, is an administrative region within lancashire, as is Greater Manchester etc...
But you are right, there needs to be a bigger endeavour to make it LAncashire and the towns within LAncashire should be shouting it from the rooftops.
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| I think it is a good idea, However, i think it has failed in the past for the usual reasons.
The RFL don,t promote it properly
They don,t take a long term view, SOO took some time to bed in, but the NRL persisted and its now the biggest draw in OZ
Most fans won,t buy into it, the "RL FAMILY" is a myth as the "MM Weekend" shows, most fans are only interested in their team.
If it is to succeed it has to be promoted properly, and given a good run, probably 10 years or so, and for that reason alone, l don,t think it will happen.
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| I think it could work but only if its the same as State of Origin where it's used as selection for the national side, it's got to be a 3-game series, it's got be made clear it will be long term, it's got to take precedence over SL games.
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| Quote: Who are ya!! "That's the problem with Lancashire I'm from warrington and have always been brought up with the knowledge warrington is in Cheshire, so just like last time a lancashire vs Yorkshire would mean nothing to me...'"
do keep up - . Lancashire (Lancaster, Liverpool, Manchester, Preston, Bolton, Warrington, Barrow-in-Furness)
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| Quote: Sadfish "
Merseyside, is an administrative region within lancashire, as is Greater Manchester etc...
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Except Merseyside contains parts of Wirral, previously in Cheshire. and Greater Manchester contains areas south of the River Mersey (i.e., Cheshire) and a little part of what was previously the West Riding.
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| It should headline the Magic Weekend. Make up the 8th game. If your team has players selected, they HAVE to play.
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