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If Greg Eden sorts his defence out he will be right up there with the best FB in Superleague. At the moment though he is a long way off.

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Quote: Durham Giant "at the minute NO.

He may go on to improve his defence and if he does will be a great player in the future but at the minute he is a defensive liability'"


Grix seems just as bad defensively as Eden on the few occasions I've seen him.

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Quote: flatcap "Grix seems just as bad defensively as Eden on the few occasions I've seen him.'"


Scott Grix is usually very very reliable under the high ball, and what he does superbly is organise the giants defence it his attack that's often lacking at the moment

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Quote: JB Down Under "TBF to Eden I thought he had a solid game at the back except for the last decision to let it bounce and that was more due to covering the other side of the field. He caught a couple of tricky balls well under pressure. If Manu Vatevi can learn to catch I am sure Eden can!'"


Correct he did have a good game.

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If you haven't got the defensive aspect in your game sorted as a FB by the time you've been in the game a few years & are already plying your trade at the top level then you never will (not properly IMO)
Time & time again we see FBs allowing the ball to bounce (or not able to read the play and give themselves a chance to be in position to catch it)
I can't think I ever saw Garry Kemble drop a ball never mind not reach it in the all the years he was at FC, bit like Arthur keegan further back. You'd put your house on them catching it and both were adept at the one on one tackle. Kemble wasn't a playmaker but was a decent attacking full back.

One on one tackling seems to be ok with modern day FBs but not amazing, however I think that's down to attackers running straight at the FB more often than not, aside from Tomkins there's few who can actually put on a proper side-step, it's a case of try to gas the FB off which rarely works these days.

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Quote: Fieldheadrhino "If Greg Eden sorts his defence out he will be right up there with the best FB in Superleague. At the moment though he is a long way off.'"


Totally agree, if he can stop making the silly errors, then he will be. I though he was excellent for 76 minutes on Saturday, certainly there most dangerous player, scored one try and set another up, also very safe up until that play.

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I disagree - I think defensive ability - particularly positioning - will improve for most young fullbacks over time. I also don't think that good attack should be at the expense of defensive ability.

What is better IMO is that SL sides seem to be looking for attacking fullbacks. Its been a big weakness for GB/England in the past.

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If the guys in front of Greg could defend then he'd not have so much work to do in defence in the first place!!! Let's face it, that last play at the Magic weekend should have been shut down and no kick gotten away. It wasn't the last tackle so Greg was organising the defence for the next ptb and was making sure Hull couldn't chip over for a winger, that is why he was out of position for where Houghton kicked the ball.

Greg still almost got to it but it was a towering kick, yes as a fb he should have taken it but I do feel that will come with confidence. The fact is he was given an almighty task by the guys in front of him and it is there that we need to sort out much more than just Greg getting things in order.

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If we're talking about full backs with bad defence, some of Jamie Foster's attempts to tackle yesterday were laughable.

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very exciting in attack but poor defensively.

I said last year when he was with us that maybe give him a run at 6 as he has good handling and running skills and see what happens.

he may turn into a world class player and it will be giants loss if he does.

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It doesn't matter where you play him, he still has no confidence in fielding a high kick, he was under no pressure whatsoever on Saturday as Green was 20 metres from him when he decided to let it bounce. Lets not forget, he has done this on a number of occasions this season and it needs sorting out, if he cannot find the necessary skill to defend a bomb, he needs moving to another position, or another club.

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or just switch between attack and defense. fb in attack and switch him with one of the halfbacks for defensive sets

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Quote: wolfinwidnes "or just switch between attack and defense. fb in attack and switch him with one of the halfbacks for defensive sets'"


Or a winger, at least until he starts showing enough confidence in that area in training etc.

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What? Did you miss the two balls he took at full stretch? He claimed all the ones he went for, he made a decision he was too far away from the final ball to reach it. If the vr had any level of competency it would be a non issue and we'd be talking about how well he did.

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