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| Quote: Ganson's Optician "I take it you haven't actually watched a game of Australian Rugby League then.'"
i watch every game every week thank you.
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| Quote: DropGoalGiant "Amazing atmosphere and exellent game, and all for the price of £8!'"
Trouble is that 11000 @ £8 is less admission income than getting 5000 @ £20. I thought given the low admission price the attendance was still quite poor.
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| Quote: Charlie Sheen "Its amazing what can be achieved when the game is marketed properly (by the clubs) and you have 2 quality teams on show. I don't buy this "there's something to play for" argument. The mosre games we have involving teams of the required standard the better the product, and the crowds will be. For example in the last round Leeds played Cas in the last round on the CC, and many people thought it would be Chse's last game for Cas yet it only managed to attract just over 8,000. Now was tat because the game "didn't matter" or because the fans weren't expeecting a decent game between 2 good sides?'"
What has the crowd gotta do with it being Chase' last game or not? It aint going to make more Leeds fans turn up to HQ to watch. Ultimately 8k in the rd round of the cup aint a disaster at full price, and furthermore, Leeds probably made more revenue from that game then Hudds did today with their £8 buy in. I always have loved the challenge cup and it does rile me when people dismiss it. Gotta say, very disappointing that sky haven't selected a game either round.
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| I know some people are going to shoot me down for this, but how is that a good crowd considering the price and quality of the teams? It makes you worry what kind of crowd you would get if the tickets were full price.
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| Quote: shinymcshine "Trouble is that 11000 @ £8 is less admission income than getting 5000 @ £20. I thought given the low admission price the attendance was still quite poor.'"
Great maths. You do realise that 11000 people will spend more money at the stadium than 5000 don't you?
It was a brilliant game apart from costing me a fortune on sky bet. I enjoyed the Hull KR v Saints game too the other week, maybe the cup has re emerged.
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| Quote: dubairl "its just the negativity which catches on, 1 fan moans about it then 2 will moan and all of a sudden its becomes fashionable to moan about everything rugby league. Never mind that at the moment there seems to be more exciting youngsters coming through teams than i can remember at any other time. Back to the cup its a good competition and the big teams that get knocked out just say "o'well its only the challenge cup".
over in Aus the commentators are warned about complaining about the ref or the standard of the a match, they are told to be positive about the game unlike stevo and eddie who study each play to try and find a negative and complain about a ref call.'"
Maybe that's because in Oz the TV companies are competing for coverage. If they are too negative, then it could effect them getting TV rights.
Here we know SKY are getting the SL and BBC the CC. So commentators are free to be negative.
However, SKY do put fake positives on RL, every game is the greatest ever, and the league just gets better and better. That's the mantra, it's just when it comes down to the commentary, the negative always seams to come out of Stevo. Rather than it's a great try, it's poor defense.
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| Quote: bewareshadows "Rather than it's a great try, it's poor defense.'"
And in this he is doing what he usually does: stating the obvious. By its nature, a try scored means that the defence hasn't been as good as needed otherwise the try would not have been scored! However, as you say, he invariably fails to mention the skill involved in fooling the defence or getting round it/over it or whatever it has taken to break the defensive line.
I agree with those who have said that the BBC commentary was very good yesterday, as was the discussion on the red button show. The BBC has come a long way in the last few years and now I prefer their set up to that of Sky. Sky come across as dated and dumbed down. They need a complete refresh but I don't think they view our sport as important enough anymore to do a refresh.
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| Quote: jonny the leyther "Great maths. You do realise that 11000 people will spend more money at the stadium than 5000 don't you?'"
You do realise that the Giants don't own the Stadium or concession stands, and wont make much match day revenue in the form of food and drink, etc.
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| Yawn, so people would rather see a 25,000 seat stadium with 5,000 rattling about live on BBC - yep, that would be perfect publicity in World Cup year.
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| It was a great crowd and yes it needed a big marketing push and cheap tickets to do it, but it was great to be there and I'm sure it looked better for the cameras too. It felt like a semi final, with great support from both teams. Proper cup rugby, do or die performances.
Is it the re-emergence of the cup? Not yet, but if all those left in the cup push the competition in a similar way to Huddersfield and Leeds then maybe it could be the start of something.
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| Quote: JonB95 "Yawn, so people would rather see a 25,000 seat stadium with 5,000 rattling about live on BBC - yep, that would be perfect publicity in World Cup year.'"
No id rather see it as full as possible, but I don't see how this a 'great' crowd considering how cheap the tickets were. Its been far better than the usual rubbish crowds we see in the Challenge Cup, but nothing to suggest the 're-emergence of the Challenge Cup'.
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| it was full of excitement that game yesterday and i am sure a few of the newbies who paid 8quid will go back and watch a few more games.
huddersfield struggle for attendance and getting more people threw the gates at discounted price will only help them not hinder them.
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| People are complaining the prices were too cheap, lets put it into perspective, 8Euros is what people pay per match for the top level of football in the German Bundesligue of which 2 teams are in the European final.
What is the need to charge to 25 pound per ticket in order to be a succesful sport?
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| Quote: Bondi_Warrior "No id rather see it as full as possible, but I don't see how this a 'great' crowd considering how cheap the tickets were. Its been far better than the usual rubbish crowds we see in the Challenge Cup, but nothing to suggest the 're-emergence of the Challenge Cup'.'"
It was an great crowd for the two teams involved. More than the equivalent SL fixture last time, and more than most play off attendances.
Maybe it suggests that SL ticket prices are too high, considering that the weekly rounds largely count for nothing apart from maybe the battle for 8th spot.
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| jonny the leyther wrote:
Great maths. You do realise that 11000 people will spend more money at the stadium than 5000 don't you?
You do realise that the Giants don't own the Stadium or concession stands, and wont make much match day revenue in the form of food and drink, etc.
the Giants own 60% of the Stadium (not a lot of people know that) and therfore will take 60% of the rental for concession stands (these are least to franchises
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