Nothing. That is my point. If he thought he could win things, he would have stayed and not gone to the Roosters.

I dont think its as a simple as that. Players leave clubs all the time a variety of reasons would be the cause of that rather than a player just thinking he can win things. Maloney had 2 good years at the warriors reaching one Grand Final and then decided to move back to NSW.

It isnt pretty much accepted that even if the Warriors were the #1 side in the competition for them its a lot harder as players dont generally want to go to Auckland. I'm pretty sure they have the backers to pay the wages but players will prefer to stay in NSW and Brisbane than go to NZ.

If Tomkins decided to go the the Warriors or anyone else for that matter it doesnt mean he would be at that one club forever regardless of who it is.

Yeah...he never got over the GF loss with the Warriors [iALL THOSE YEARS AGO[/i

He is certainly within a shout for a spot, and especially seeing how well he and Pearce are playing together, you could argue that it would benefit the Blues to play halves that are use to playing together at club level.

Although on the downside, it will be bad for the Roosters as this year they have to back up all 3 Origin games.

Yet Gareth Widdop leaves the storm for the Dragons.

But surely. .... surely ... that is because St George will pay him a lot more than Melbourne --- carrying Slater, Cronk and Smith, plus Ryan Hoffman, under the salary cap -- could have.

You cannot blame a kid from Halifax for wanting to up his income from $150,000 a year to $650,000 a year. It''s not greed, it's just human nature to prefer the extra half a million dollars every year, win or lose.

Does anyone know how much money Sam Tomkins is earning now at Wigan?

Sam Tomkins probably does. And Ian Lenagan.

Wigan are paying him around £300,000 a quantity of this wage is exempt from the cap, add on his media work and it'll be a little more. I think he'd struggle to get much more than playing Union at club level but obviously international caps are worth about £20,000 to £30,000 each. I think the NRL would be more an life and rugby experience that any thing else as the money he's earning here is extremely good.

I like Mortimer and he has worked well as an impact player this season, however he isn't as good as either Pearce or Maloney. Besides if they both go to Origin, they will need more than just Mortimer.

Really? Superleague cap is £1,650,000.........if you're right, he's currently on 18% of the Wigan cap and whilst he can earn very good money in the NRL, but the Aviva currently has a cap that is essentially bigger and as for French Club Rugby.....he could earn 3 times his current wage there easily.

Also, on the "one player excluded" rule in the Aviva, he could become the highest paid player on the RFU's books and not even count on the cap at all.....

NRL £4,000,000
Top 14 £8,600,000
Aviva £4,500,000 with 1 player excluded
Welsh Union £3,500,000
Irish Rugby, no cap but only 1 non Irish player allowed per province
ARU £3,000,000
South African Union no cap
NZ no super Rugby cap, provincial cap is £750,000.

I don't believe the NZ Warriors need him....we have enough talent in depth over here and it's the coaching side of things we need to sort out. If he moved to Sydney he'd be a rock'n'roll star....I reckon a move to Brisbane might be best for him.

I hate to agree with the idiot troll, but a move to Brisbane might be better for him than a move to Auckland, in that he would get more media attention, more club fan adoration and a better coach.

However having Sam Tomkins and Shaun Johnson in the same team, with Kevin Locke on the wing, would definitely light up the playing field at Auckland.

lol Bazza.....just lol