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Quote: JB Down Under "Has he signed anyone yet? Best to get some top class talent before worrying about breaching the cap!'"



Hasn't it crossed your mind that he's been in negotiations with top clas talent hense wanting a cap rise? Anyway this man WILL NOT STOP until he's taken Salford to the top its good for the game.

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Quote: RED LEAGUE "Hasn't it crossed your mind that he's been in negotiations with top clas talent hense wanting a cap rise? Anyway this man WILL NOT STOP until he's taken Salford to the top its good for the game.'"



Is 'Ming the merciless' thinking of spending any of his hard earned money on bringing through youth at Salford?

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Quote: MattyB "Is 'Ming the merciless' thinking of spending any of his hard earned money on bringing through youth at Salford?'"



Yes we currently have. Theo Fages, Mark Sneyd, Adam Walne, Jon Ford, Jack Holmes, Niall Evalds, Edwin Okanga-Ajwang and Gareth Owen all in our squad who have all come through our academy. Is that enough for you?

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Oh and if you look back to the first couple of interviews Dr Koukash stated that he wants to create a world class academy set up and bring in players for all over the country and even the world.

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Quote: littlerich "He needs to go about his business quietly and with dignity. He's embarrassing. STFU Marwan.'"


He was asked a question and answered it honestly. It's not as if he's mouthing off for the sake of it out of the blue.

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Quote: RED LEAGUE "Isn't it a bit rich when you get Wigan and Warrington supporters coming on here starting a debate about Salford over spending and other fans saying Salford should be stripped of points/anything they win for LEGALY going through loop holes to spend a little over the full cap when Wigan and Wire are clubs that have been doing it for years! And before super league Wigan had there biggest success period in an uneven competition where they were the only full time club.

And why shouldn't Marwan come out and tell the truth he's only saying what people have been thinking and have known for years! It's like the top 4/5 club are in one big secret society and they are all sworn to secrecy about their dodgy dealings! I've been saying for years that Wigan and Warrington have cheated the cap and you'd get said supporters of their clubs shooting me down now its all come out in public, good on you Marwan if RL wants to go back to the sport it was we need to break up this big 4/5 clique because its doing no favours for a SMALL sport like rugby league, like it or not De Koukash in an indirect way is saving to sport slowly, we get a lot more publicity for a start and he's getting the game out there to people who have never thought about it before, he's not a traditional rugby league man but in time he could be the lynch pin that RL despiratelly needs.'"


Can someone point me to this rule that banned all other clubs except wigan from having a pro team back in the day?

Or could everyone else just not be bothered?

Oh and good luck to the doctor. Loopholes are there to be exploited. If you dont as a management team you are not doing your job im afraid.

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Quote: Sharpy_4a "Can someone point me to this rule that banned all other clubs except wigan from having a pro team back in the day?

Or could everyone else just not be bothered?

Oh and good luck to the doctor. Loopholes are there to be exploited. If you dont as a management team you are not doing your job im afraid.'"



Not couldn't be bothered just couldn't afford it, every club didn't have a multi millionaire bookmaker in the hot seat.

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Dont care what club or who owns it there are rules to be followed, If the Doctor can't understand that then he should take his cash & spend it on Football, We suffered years of big spending Wigan dominating the competition & nearly killing the game off (& just about going bust in the prosess) The man must realise that there is more than one team in a league & he needs the other clubs to make a competition. The most succsesfull team sports in the world all have wage caps to protect the competition NFL, NBA, Hockey, NRL, Union, even wendyball is bringing in spending rules(at last) & we have one cashed up newcomer who thinks he can ignore the rest of the sports world. As for others bending the rules they better watch their backs as it only takes one former employee with a grievance to blow the lid & it will all come tumbling down (Melbourne a case in point).

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Quote: RED LEAGUE "Not couldn't be bothered just couldn't afford it, every club didn't have a multi millionaire bookmaker in the hot seat.'"

ohh the irony, you can't argue it was unfair and unjust when Wigan spent a lot of money on their roster and then support Dr Insolvency spending above the cap.

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Quote: Beverley red "Dont care what club or who owns it there are rules to be followed, If the Doctor can't understand that then he should take his cash & spend it on Football, We suffered years of big spending Wigan dominating the competition & nearly killing the game off (& just about going bust in the prosess) The man must realise that there is more than one team in a league & he needs the other clubs to make a competition. The most succsesfull team sports in the world all have wage caps to protect the competition NFL, NBA, Hockey, NRL, Union, even wendyball is bringing in spending rules(at last) & we have one cashed up newcomer who thinks he can ignore the rest of the sports world. As for others bending the rules they better watch their backs as it only takes one former employee with a grievance to blow the lid & it will all come tumbling down (Melbourne a case in point).'"

Very true, the Premier League is debt ridden, it's a financial double which will explode due to the unsustainable actions of club owners.

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Quote: Meefy "Are you implying that Brett Hodgson and Joel Monaghan have record deals?'"


Robson and Jerome?

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Quote: TrentBarrett "ohh the irony, you can't argue it was unfair and unjust when Wigan spent a lot of money on their roster and then support Dr Insolvency spending above the cap.'"


I'm not arguing about what Wigan did I'm just saying Wigan fans and fans from Warrington can't complain about what Marwan Koukash wants when Warrington have done it for years and a big part of Wigans history was based on big money signings.

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I often wonder whether the salary cap would stand up to legal challenge. As others have said, anything of this nature will always have loopholes, it is like the tax avoidance v evasion debate. Koukash is doing nothing wrong by being honest about it.

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Quote: Ganson's Optician "I often wonder whether the salary cap would stand up to legal challenge. As others have said, anything of this nature will always have loopholes, it is like the tax avoidance v evasion debate. Koukash is doing nothing wrong by being honest about it.'"

An interesting research paper on the topic, restraint of trade tends to be the topic of legal arguments against the cap.
rlhttps://eprints.jcu.edu.au/4659/1/4659_Davies_2006.pdfrl

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Quote: TrentBarrett "An interesting research paper on the topic, restraint of trade tends to be the topic of legal arguments against the cap.
rlhttps://eprints.jcu.edu.au/4659/1/4659_Davies_2006.pdfrl'"

Thanks, have saved that on my laptop for a rainy day. Just finishing a 5,000 word essay on European Business Law, head is in too much of a pickle to read it tonight!

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