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Quote: gutterfax "Foxy Bingo, Brut and Heinz Big Soup are PARTNERS with little if any money changing hands.......they are fillers.
Tetley and the Cider that isn't a Cider are the 2 Paying sponsors from this year so far.....the RFL annual accounts for 2012-13 will make interesting reading under the "sponsorship" column.

Engage were worth 1.7m a year.....do you believe that the RFL are getting anything like that now?'"


Partners is just a fancy word to 'big up' a sponsorship and make it sound somehow more important or perhaps, they feel it's more likely to give the impression that it's not just a sordid financial deal, but that we have a deeper, more altruistic engagement with our 'partners' than with a mere sponsor.....as if!

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Quote: Bulliac "Partners is just a fancy word to 'big up' a sponsorship and make it sound somehow more important or perhaps, they feel it's more likely to give the impression that it's not just a sordid financial deal, but that we have a deeper, more altruistic engagement with our 'partners' than with a mere sponsor.....as if!'"


Thing is, don't partners usually offer freebies to the companies involved? The whole "official supplier" sort of deal?

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Quote: Richie "How much additional business did Stobart get?'"


I don't know how much business they got, but they got plenty of coverage on TV, radio etc.
Certainly more exposure to TV and radio listeners, than people who may have been lucky enough to see an elusive Stobart lorry AND grasped that it was promoting Super League and then actually bothered to do anything about it.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "I don't know how much business they got, but they got plenty of coverage on TV, radio etc.
Certainly more exposure to TV and radio listeners, than people who may have been lucky enough to see an elusive Stobart lorry AND grasped that it was promoting Super League and then actually bothered to do anything about it.'"


And what was that worth to Stobart?

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Partnership = Little if any money changes hands....various "contra" deals and "CPA" arrangements.
Sponsorship = someone has paid for the right to be associated with.

If anyone thinks Foxy,Brut or Heinz have paid up front they need their heads looking at. d040.gif

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Quote: Richie "And what was that worth to Stobart?'"

I was a deal that had the dubious distinction of being practically worthless to all involved. I imagine the lawyer who drew up the contract is the only one who made a profit from it. One of the most ridiculous deals ever seen. Apparently the final decision wasn't even the RFL's fault ( though of course had they had the skill, marketing expertise and general charm to find a better sponsorship deal in the first place it would never have been considered) - the mind boggles at who on earth thought it had any value whatsoever.

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Quote: a.n Other "Clubs have announced that if people sign up to Fox bingo and quote their club in the promotions box, the club will get £50.

This could be the deal or at least the main part of it- similar to how the Championship received any money from Premier sports last year.'"


Are you serious ?

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Quote: gutterfax "Partnership

Are you suggesting that the more beans that are eaten in Wigan will mean the RL club will get more money? icon_lol.gif

How will they work it in Hull?

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Whilst that may be true in some cases it isn't in all. Man Utd for example have loads of companies listed on their Official Sponsors web page and most of them are described as partners despite at least some of them paying out decent money.

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Quote: The Devil's Advocate "Based on the V.T attendance rhetoric, I’d give the Samaritans a call.'"

Calls to the Samaritans are allegedly up by over 12% compared to last year, so yes... we need them more than they need us.

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Quote: William Eve "Calls to the Samaritans are allegedly up by over 12% compared to last year, so yes... we need them more than they need us.'"


Well we certainly need them more than we need you!!

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Quote: William Eve "Calls to the Samaritans are allegedly up by over 12% compared to last year, so yes... we need them more than they need us.'"




And that's only from the staff at Red Hall. icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: Him "Whilst that may be true in some cases it isn't in all. '"


I would suggest it is 100% true in this case....we will see when the accounts for the last 2 years come to light.....£1.7 million from Engage in 2011........wonder what 2012 and now 2013 will show?

Quote: Him "Man Utd for example have loads of companies listed on their Official Sponsors web page and most of them are described as partners despite at least some of them paying out decent money.'"


United....seriously? Estimated "unique" fans in the Millions globally...I would go so far to say they got more TV viewers in asia alone when they beat villa for the title earlier in the week than SL gets in a season.

A more useful comparison would be with the list of sponsors on the other codes website.....the RFU also calls them "partners and suppliers" and declared £15,300,000 in sponsorship revenue in their 2012 accounts.....the RFL in 2011 declared £1,858,404 in sponsorship revenue.....

Foxy Bingo, Brut and Heinz Big Soup are at best contra deals.....they access the RFL database, the RFL gets to access theirs......and not a lot else will happen.

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Quote: William Eve "Calls to the Samaritans are allegedly up by over 12% compared to last year, so yes... we need them more than they need us.'"


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A more useful comparison would be with the list of sponsors on the other codes website.....the RFU also calls them "partners and suppliers" and declared £15,300,000 in sponsorship revenue in their 2012 accounts.....the RFL in 2011 declared £1,858,404 in sponsorship revenue.....

And that is why change is needed yet the same people spout the same drivel whenever the RFL or its exclusive behind closed doors ways are shown for what they

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