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33809_1522680904.png 'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_33809.png |
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| Quote: J20 "Players are financially protected by the contracts that they signed. You can't simply 'get rid' of them at all.'"
But for middling players contracts are typically for 2 years or even just 1 - not great security. Even a permanent job is only permanent until your post is made redundant, of course, but at least you usually get a pay-out.
Now, eventually the market would correct - players leaving leading to greater competition for talent and longer contracts, but that isn't much consolation to players now.
Although going to 14 teams and the NRL goldrush should be strengthening players' negotiating position - our chairmen has said wage demands are up dramatically. All depends on your POV, I guess.
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| He has had a more secure offer from another business-simple
Throwing a few ill thought out handgrenades as he goes out of the door.
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| Quote: east stander "He has had a more secure offer from another business-simple
Throwing a few ill thought out handgrenades as he goes out of the door.'"
Burning his bridges - lets hope it works out for him and he doesn't have to come back to RL to make ends meet......
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| Quote: j.c "No its not.
Its a player who has seen sle slowly fall apart over the last few years,culminating with his own club falling into the abyss.
It sound like he can see whats round the corner for other clubs also, and want no part of it anymore.'"
Ah. He's Mystic Meg. That explains it, then. Except why if he can see into the future, he ain't a rich man from lottery winnings
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Ah. He's Mystic Meg. That explains it, then. Except why if he can see into the future, he ain't a rich man from lottery winnings
More a case of if you're not with a top 4/5 club your earning potential and job security are not that good , his decision , it will give somebody else a chance , lets hope its another british player
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| It all may not be that well thought through but he's got a few points. The games in a frustrating state at the moment full stop with how it's structured and what's happening with the academy Compatitions being major issues.
His last point is the real winner. The Stobart deal has been done to death but how could we seriously enter in to that arrangement? The clubs were meant to have voted on it but somebody must have had the final call or at least took it seriously enough in the first place to put it to the clubs. That person shouldn't still be in a job it was that bad.
The sports crying out for investment. Teams are making cutbacks fighting not to go to the wall. They're scrapping their academy teams to save money yet we take a deal where we basically got paid in magic beans! Sadly they were dud.
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45011_1321315422.jpg This isn't a sleeping giant, it's a giant! Denis Betts Nov 2010
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| Quote: Mild Rover "But for middling players contracts are typically for 2 years or even just 1 - not great security. Even a permanent job is only permanent until your post is made redundant, of course, but at least you usually get a pay-out.
Now, eventually the market would correct - players leaving leading to greater competition for talent and longer contracts, but that isn't much consolation to players now.
Although going to 14 teams and the NRL goldrush should be strengthening players' negotiating position - our chairmen has said wage demands are up dramatically. All depends on your POV, I guess.'"
Don't get me wrong of he feels he can be more secure elsewhere then fair play and good luck to him. You have to respect that.
I just don't think players are treated that badly at all (are they comparing themselves to footballers?) and surely the Bulls case highlights that! He even says himself clubs would love to pay them more etc etc, they just can't!
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| Quote: NickyKiss "It all may not be that well thought through but he's got a few points. The games in a frustrating state at the moment full stop with how it's structured and what's happening with the academy Compatitions being major issues.
His last point is the real winner. The Stobart deal has been done to death but how could we seriously enter in to that arrangement? The clubs were meant to have voted on it but somebody must have had the final call or at least took it seriously enough in the first place to put it to the clubs. That person shouldn't still be in a job it was that bad.
The sports crying out for investment. Teams are making cutbacks fighting not to go to the wall. They're scrapping their academy teams to save money yet we take a deal where we basically got paid in magic beans! Sadly they were dud.'"
The Stobart deal has indeed been done to death, but frankly, the handling of that alone should be enough to convince anyone of the gross incompetence at the top.
The most terrifying thing about the Stobart deal was not the deal itself, but that people could come out and claim it was worth millions. Either those people are cynical liars (bad), or they actually believed what they were saying (worse).
The sport has simply got to get rid of the RFL leadership, it's too pathetic for words. League needs a ton of stuff doing to make it the best it can be (and yes, that's all we ask for - the best it can be. It's no good talking c**p like "we'll never compete with Union, etc." I don't care - I just want to look at the leadership and think, yep, good professionals doing as good a job as anyone could do to get the best out of our sport.)
The problem is that its no good coming up with good ways for the sport to move forward because whatever the idea, its going to be implemented by people not up to the job.
Has Wood got a job for life? Can the clubs vote him out? How long do we have to watch this shambles?
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| Quote: east stander "He has had a more secure offer from another business-simple
Throwing a few ill thought out handgrenades as he goes out of the door.'"
This.
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| A not untypical parting shot from someone who has made a personal decision to move on; it happens all the time in every industry and always will.
I don't see anything particularly 'damning' in there about anything other than the people who ran Bradford Bulls into the ground; he makes a valid point about the Stobart deal, but only the same point that a million and one other people have already made, including many on here.
I wonder when his book comes out?
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| He is an end user not dissimilar to a gas fitter working for British Gas.
He won’t be any more familiar with RL strategy than any of us. Even if the RFL had received money for the Stobart deal it wouldn’t have directly impacted upon him.
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| Quote: east stander "He is an end user not dissimilar to a gas fitter working for British Gas.
He won’t be any more familiar with RL strategy than any of us. Even if the RFL had received money for the Stobart deal it wouldn’t have directly impacted upon him.'"
The RFL have a strategy?
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: RLBandit "The RFL have a strategy?'"
In the latest fashion
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| Same old people trying to use whatever, even when completely irrelevant, they can to back up their same old vested interests.
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18919_1341147656.jpg [quote="King Monkey":30st820n]Maybe a spell in prison would do Graham good.
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| I bet he wasn't bashing the RFL when they were paying his wages?
I'm not sure how RL can ever recover from loss of the great Bryn Hargreaves!
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