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Let's do the MATH.
Union's Premiership:
£152m over 4 years (£38m per year).
12 clubs.
= a share of £3.16m per club per season.
League's Superleague:
£95m over 5 years (£19m per year).
14 clubs.
= a share of £1.35m per club per season.
WOW.
SL deal source: www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/ju ... gue-rights I can't find anything quoting £135m?
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Let's do the MATH.
Union's Premiership:
£152m over 4 years (£38m per year).
12 clubs.
= a share of £3.16m per club per season.
League's Superleague:
£95m over 5 years (£19m per year).
14 clubs.
= a share of £1.35m per club per season.
WOW.
SL deal source: www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/ju ... gue-rights I can't find anything quoting £135m?
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| Quote: Him "The current domestic tv deal works out at £27m per year, whereas the new union one works out at £38m per year. It's a little larger difference than I first thought as I'd mistakenly thought our deal was for 4 years but it's actually 5 as you say, but it's not a huge difference I don't think, and shows we aren't getting screwed by Sky or are totally incompetent at negotiating these deals which some people would have you believe.
Like I said in my previous post, it's business sponsorship and partnerships where we struggle IMO.'"
IMG negotiate the sale of our broadcasting rights, another thing the RFL get the blame for which isnt down to them
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| Shows what a proper governing body can achieve. Give it 20 years and Premiership Union will absolutely dwarf Super League.
Him, I think your maths is off. The SL deal is £95m over 5 years. £19m per season. Union deal is £152m over 4 years, which is £38m per season. So by my maths they are receiving £19m more per season.
Union's domestic competition sponsorship deal is £20m over 4 years, Super League's is £0m over 0 years.
So that's £24m PER SEASON more money for the Union competition. And that is without throwing in the 5m euros per season for the last 20 years that Union has received for the Heineken Cup or the handouts from the cashcow that is Twickenham.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "IMG negotiate the sale of our broadcasting rights, another thing the RFL get the blame for which isnt down to them'"
Who appointed IMG to do it? It's clearly the RFL's fault.
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| Quote: Barnabus "Let's do the MATH.
Union's Premiership:
£152m over 4 years (£38m per year).
12 clubs.
I don’t think it is a like for like comparison.
That £90m is for SL only, there are international and challenge cup, highlight packages, overseas rights etc etc that have been sold. Sky for instance paid 2m solely for international rights for this year. Im not sure on the £135m figure but it rings a bell and sounds about right for a total figure for all rights.
The £152m figure for RU also seems to include three years of European club RU as well, so not only the Aviva premiership
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| Quote: Saddened! "Who appointed IMG to do it? It's clearly the RFL's fault.'"
Yeah, who would use IMG to sell broadcast rights? nobody even knows who they are in the media industry. You wouldn’t catch the NFL, Australian Open, R&A, IRB et al working with them. Damn Fools.
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| Yep the £135m figure is in the Watkins Review and includes Challenge Cup but doesnt include internationals. Like Smokey says the new Union deal includes Heineken Cup games after the first year.
Also the RL broadcasting deal is split into 16ths.
Each SL club gets a share, the RFL gets a share and the remaining share is given to the Championships.
So:
£135m over 5 years = £27m per year
£27m divide by 16 = £1.69m
So each SL club gets £1.69m, the RFL gets £1.69m and the Championships get £1.69m. Plus IIRC any title sponsor and international broadcasting revenue will be split the same way.
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| The more I see the more I am thinking BT is going to go the way of ITV Digital and its digital broadcasting rights for the soccer...
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| Quote: Him "Yep the £135m figure is in the Watkins Review and includes Challenge Cup but doesnt include internationals. Like Smokey says the new Union deal includes Heineken Cup games after the first year.
Also the RL broadcasting deal is split into 16ths.
Each SL club gets a share, the RFL gets a share and the remaining share is given to the Championships.
So:
£135m over 5 years
The watkins review says the gross income is £24 million not £27million which might not sound a lot of difference but when more than half the clubs are teetering on the edge....
There are also numorous other costs that must be payed for out of this income so i dont think clubs have as much to spend on themselves as you think
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| FiveLive are reporting that a one off subscription to BT Vision is required then all the matches will be available on Sky, VirginMedia and possibly Freeview.
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| Quote: Him "Yep the £135m figure is in the Watkins Review and includes Challenge Cup but doesnt include internationals. Like Smokey says the new Union deal includes Heineken Cup games after the first year.
Also the RL broadcasting deal is split into 16ths.
Each SL club gets a share, the RFL gets a share and the remaining share is given to the Championships.
So:
£135m over 5 years
I thought SL clubs got a 1million pound annual grant?
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| Quote: blackfrost "FiveLive are reporting that a one off subscription to BT Vision is required then all the matches will be available on Sky, VirginMedia and possibly Freeview.'"
So, what? I give them twenty quid today, and can watch their RU coverage forever?
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "IMG negotiate the sale of our broadcasting rights, another thing the RFL get the blame for which isnt down to them'"
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| The Watkins Review suggests that the broadcast fees for SL only are around £21m per year. It says....
[iThe RFL pays for all centrally provided services for the entire sport
Extrapolating that, 47% of £2.8m equates to £1.32m which represents a 1/16th share. Therefore, £1.32m x 16 SLE retains all revenues net of direct costs from its Play-off—s, its title sponsorship and other commercial income generated by its competition[/i
Other income such as the Challenge Cup and Internationals goes to the RFL to fund its administration costs. If the RFL make a profit then the annual profits are distributed in the ratio 60% to SL, 30% to Championships, 10% to Community Game. So, for example, if the RFL make a £1m profit then each SL club gets a further £70k each, the Championships clubs get £14k each and the remaining £100k goes into the Community game funding. The Watkins Review advocates a move to split the profits equally rather than in the above ratio.
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| Union deal could end up like the ITV Digital fiasco though, with a broadcaster 'desparate' for live sport prepared to pay over the odds for a product that relatively few may want to subscribe to.
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