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| Was thinking about this the other day. I've hated the idea every time I've seen anything written about it, but perhaps a "hybrid" 9s tournament could work for the Olympics, to showcase the best players from both codes. For any form of RL to be in the Olympics though the main sticking point would definitely be that neither the NRL or the SL would want their top stars released in the middle of the season.
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| Going off the medals Australia have won, I am suprised they are not championing this already......
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| Personally I agree with the other posters and the Olympics should not have football, tennis, golf (which will be at Rio), Rugby etc.
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| Quote: Big Ask "Personally I agree with the other posters and the Olympics should not have football, tennis, golf (which will be at Rio), Rugby etc.'"
Completely agree. I had no interest in the football at all. IMO it's not an Olympic sport if a gold medal isn't the absolute pinnacle that everyone is striving towards. Football, tennis, golf and rugby in particular all would have 4 or 5 trophies that people would consider more important than an Olympic medal.
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| golf? at the olympics? really?
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| Until we make rl 9's a regular competition at club and int level it does not deserve to be in Olympics. Would love to see more club and world 9's comps played. We should have a world 9's ever February played in Oz and an invitational 9's during the season.
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| Quote: Mark_W "No I can't but there's obviously no need for 2 codes of a rugby format at the olympics'"
They are different sports that share the same shaped ball and part name. Should football and Gaelic football have a merged sport at the Olympics? If they can have beach volleyball and normal volleyball no reason you can't have two codes of rugby.
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| GOLF!!!! FFS. I only watch the athletics, the rest can go hang for me.
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| Quote: jarvis12345 "With the introduction of golf and union 7s at the next Olympics should the RLIF push for RL whether 9s or 13 a side to be at the Olympics?
Surely it would increase participation numbers and SL attendances if we did well in it. It would also be an opportunity to develop the game in new areas!!
International RL isnt a big thing in our sport but if it was part of the Olympics it could be great!
I understand its right in the middle of the SL and NRL season but for it to be competative in the Olympics GB, NZ and Aus would have to have age restrictions as not to disrupt the league too much.
Thoughts?'"
We could just have CC players in , that would keep the rest of the world out.
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| Quote: Wigan Peer "GOLF!!!! FFS. I only watch the athletics, the rest can go hang for me.'"
Whilst not totally agreeing they should be there the best events for me have been:
Canoe Slalom
BMX'ing (Yes I am GenX!)
Archery
Never watched any of them before but seeing as I am laid up following a knee op got to watch more of the Olympics this time than ever before. Some of the other events are actually very entertaining!
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| Quote: WARRIORCRAIG "Completely agree. I had no interest in the football at all. IMO it's not an Olympic sport if a gold medal isn't the absolute pinnacle that everyone is striving towards. Football, tennis, golf and rugby in particular all would have 4 or 5 trophies that people would consider more important than an Olympic medal.'"
Whilst I agree with you on this point, the fact is that football was an Olympic event long before the World Cup came to be. As such it is very much an intergrated part of Olympic history (even if it has long been essentially an expanded U-21 tournament). Although it probably ceased to be the pinnacle achievement within football sometime in the 1950's.
The other sports you mention above though definately have no part in the games in my opinion. But the simply truth is that the IOC want to make the games the number one sporting event on the planet and as such see the inclusion of those sports as being beneficial to raising the profile & standing of the movement (not to mention the level of corporate sponsorship from the really big guns of 21st Century global business).
In much the same way, this line of thinking led to the Olympic movement quitely dropping the amatuer only stance in the 1980's because they realised that a continuation of that rather exclusive ideal would ultimately lead to the Olympic Games becoming a second rate sporting event. Faced with the prospect of hosting an out-dated anachronistic event or adjusting their stance in order to compete with the increasingly powerful worldwide sports, they not too surprisingly jumped headlong into professionlism. It was a choice which was quite frankly unavoidable.
Having made this decision, it was inevitable that the IOC would then seek to include any sport that it feels will enable it to enhance its position as the World's number one sporting spectacle, regardless of whether winning Gold within the games is the ultimate in that particular sport.
One of the most obvious examples of this is Tennis, a sport with a decent global profile. Does anyone even remotely believe that, given half a chance , Andy Murray wouldn't swap his performance against Roger Federer last Sunday for his result against the same player on the same court just 28 days earlier when the greatest prize in tennis slipped away from him. Murray's shattered reaction at losing the Wimbledon singles final contrasted sharply with Federer's rather more shrug of the shoulders response to coming second last week, which can't be merely put down to the two players very different temperements.
As for Rugby League's possible role in future Olympics? As nice as it would be to see the game's top stars being a part of the sporting jamboree, it is highly doubtful that the game has a high enough profile to meet the criteria that the IOC look for when considering new sports. I guess it wouldn't do any harm in trying to get the sport included at some future date, but I think we all know the RL powers that be would have their work cut out in order to make the case for inclusion convincing. It's a nice pipe dream but I think most of us would be amazed if it ever came to pass.
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| Quote: JB Down Under "They are different sports that share the same shaped ball and part name. Should football and Gaelic football have a merged sport at the Olympics? If they can have beach volleyball and normal volleyball no reason you can't have two codes of rugby.'"
Rugby union isn't at the Olympics, it's 7's. And there nothing to say who can and can't be selected
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| Quote: Mark_W "Rugby union isn't at the Olympics, it's 7's. And there nothing to say who can and can't be selected'"
yeh because RU are going to want to show case RL talent! Our best bet would be to get some proper 9's competitions happening around the world, we can then at least legitmely claim it is a version of the sport that is actually played in some meaningful way. Until then we don't deserve to be even considered.
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| Quote: Mark_W "Rugby union isn't at the Olympics, it's 7's. And there nothing to say who can and can't be selected'"
You are very wrong unfortunately.
[i"Rugby sevens, also known as seven-a-side or VIIs, is a variant of rugby union in which teams are made up of seven players, instead of the usual 15, with shorter matches. Rugby sevens is administered by the International Rugby Board (IRB), the body responsible for rugby union worldwide.
Rugby sevens is now recognised as an Olympic sport and will make its debut in the 2016 Summer Olympics. This follows a vote by the executive board of the International Olympic Committee (IOC) to include the sport."[/i
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| As a matter of interest, who picked Tomkins to play for the Barbarians?
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