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Every ref thread, every week poster bemoan X ref is the worst and Y ref is the best, the one week in which the said Y ref is in charge of their game they bring up all the misdemeanour's of Y ref and saying they're all rubbish.

In short no one thinks a ref is on their side everyone thinks they are for the other side.

Another point, if Catalan get to a final, they are everyone else's other team, the one they support in a neutral game.

If the Dragons played in this years final everyone bar the other teams supporters would back them and probably buy a ticket to watch them if they fancied a good game of RL.

One thing that should be done though is for the RFL to start training up more French Refs and eventually having a 70/30 split until more French teams are capable and able of competing in SL.

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Simple fact is some teams get the 50/50 calls all the time
Some get the 75/25 calls too

You get used to it playing Leeds, Saints and Wigan - and now Wire (replacing the bulls)

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its nonsense. I have never watched any game, and thought the referee decided it. I've thought teams were unlucky but never that the ref decided it. I thought Les Catalans were very very unlucky in those decisions and i honestly cant see how they were made, they were clearly and unarguably wrong, but the game is 80minutes long, there's a lot of decisions made in a game. I can see why Les Catalans would be upset.

Saying that the refereeing standard in our game isnt where it should be, referees too often seem to be sent out with an instruction to 'let it slide in this one' or 'clamp down in this one', i dont think it is bias, just general poor refereeing and poor leadership for them at the top

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If you lose 99 times out of 100 it's your own fault.

Wire had a few chalked off at Saints but we still won the game, you can't blame the ref for a lack of performance.

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Quote: Andy Gilder "
Quote: Andy Gilder "If they genuinely believe that referees are conspiring to cheat them out of games, then the competition is better off without them.
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they do ideed believe that

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "They have a long way to go before they have been shafted so many times in so many key games as Bradford have!

Anyway, about time they left and started a proper French SL'"


You want to see what Championship refs are like . Agree why dont they start up their own french S/L with toulouse et/al then bring back P/R So the likes of Fax , Fev and Leigh can have a shot in S/L.

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Fax and Leigh have had a shot in SL

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Quote: Horatio Yed "If you lose 99 times out of 100 it's your own fault.

Wire had a few chalked off at Saints but we still won the game, you can't blame the ref for a lack of performance.'"


you had tries correctly chalked off. how is that relevant to a discussion about bad decisions?

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Obviously we won't quit the Super League as Bernard Guasch said, unthinkable possibility. It is just a political speech to shake off this actual refeering problem. Our team is not as good as possible at the moment but some decisions like at Warrington and Saints games were inapprehensible (Millard and Blanch disallowed tries, and the "amaaaaaaaaaazing" forward pass on Meli's try).

Leave the Super League for this "Super French Championship" is the worst ever idea.

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Looks like there's some great armchair refs out there, as usual with threads like these icon_rolleyes.gif

Fact is, refs will make mistakes......they are human....

The day we see all teams completing 100% and missing no tackles through an entire game, then maybe we could expect refs to not make any mistakes in games......it will never happen.

Without refs we wouldn't have a game....if all who regularly slag them off feel that strongly about it, then get off yer backside and get on a refs course and progress through the ranks and see if you can do better than the current lot are!

The RFL need to show a set and go to town on comments like these.....

We all feel hard done to from time to time and sometimes our teams are unlucky on occasions....it's been happening for the last 100 years though and will happen for the next 100.....FACT...!

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Quote: JonB95 "you had tries correctly chalked off. how is that relevant to a discussion about bad decisions?'"


Sorry i'm not having that Monaghan decision.

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Quote: Saddened! "They do have a point. I'm not convinced it's entirely bias as opposed to sheer incompetence, but the refereeing in Super League is absolutely horrific. It's one of the main factors holding the competition back, they really are incapable of doing the job. The referees are low calibre individuals who have no consistency, composure or judgement and the touch judges are a farce. They are fat or old or so young they quiver whenever the crowd make a noise. They contribute nothing and ignore blatant rulings because they are too scared to get involved.

The refereeing really wouldn't be any worse if you took the average joe off the street and asked them to do it.'"


this season has seen the worst reffing since SL came to Perpignan IMO - not cheating just an in-built northern bias by refs with some extraordinary decisions going against the Catalans - decisions that were not even 50-50 calls in many cases
The worst culprits have been Messers Thaler, Roby and especially Ian Smith - ironically the worst reffing performance of the season at the Catalan home games was by Halibert who was absolutely appalling - it seemed as though he was deliberately not trying to show bias toward his countrymen, he was really OTT !
the biggest problem the french fans and I suspect the Catalans have against the officials (i'm a Saints fan BTW) is the constant need to verify everything with the VR - the attitude towards the Catalans appears to be 'find a reason why the try should stand' rather than find a reason why the try shouldn't be awarded' which are two different things.
the general level of SL reffing is disgraceful so far this season and it's about time refs on the field of play took more responsability and not take the easy option and call for Ian fookin' Smith !

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Quote: Big Dutch "You want to see what Championship refs are like . Agree why dont they start up their own french S/L with toulouse et/al then bring back P/R So the likes of Fax , Fev and Leigh can have a shot in S/L.'"


who is going to fund it ?

who is going to watch it ?

it's like saying 'make the Championship a full time pro league' - totally unworkable !

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