Ref was terrible tonight, really, really bad, but we were our own worst enemies too, the tackling for both of their first 2 tries was pathetic. The ref made sure we were never getting in the game though, I think I saw on Twitter the penalty count was something like 15-4; were we really that much more indisciplined compared to them?

You really ought to get out a bit more mate.

If you thought tonights match was good then...............

It was a borefest !

And Hull were poor, and no mistake.

Do 'you' think Hull played well ?

Seems a completely ridiculous response to the post quoted! Where did he say any if the things you're saying he said? He simply said Hull scored in response to you saying they wouldn't have scored had they carried on playing!

Leeds were also very poor. The difference seemed to be the ref at times. Nothing went Hull's way.

To be fair to Tim Roby the 2 worst calls (Crooks pass after 'elbow hit floor' and the Manu/Bailey pushing) both seemed to come from the touch judge. Just like a young player he is learning and will make mistakes unfortunately, still think he's not as bad as James Child who has reffed many more SL games and is woeful.
I know its not ideal to say because you would hope Ref's are ready right away when they enter SL but in the circumstances the guy needs time, if he hasn't improved in 12 months time then give the guy some stick.

deffo the Splitting Image of Lance Hohaia surely ?

Has a hull kr fan i thought it was only us that complain about refs nice to see others do has well

The ref was pants but what would concern me more if I was a haddock face was how p poor the halves were. Failed to create anything with countless plays in oppos ten metres, last tackle kicking was atrocious, no ability to create space for themselves and get a decent kick away.

Leeds certainly got the benefit of some of the higher profile blunders, but his overall game management was really poor.

Short ten, slow rucks with no consistency in what constitutes a penalty and what doesn't and afailure to punish repeat offences with a warning.

15-4 penalty count in Leeds' favour I heard. Were Leeds that much more disciplined?

Or 13-5

The amount of times the markers (on both sides tbh) weren't square was ridiculous too.

Yes it was the officials. Roby as a touch judge was usually pretty good but the transition to Ref is testing him. He should have overruled whoever was whispering in his ear.

I think the decision not to sinbin Ablett (I think it was) for pulling one of the Hull players back when they could have scored was even worse, and that decision was solely down to Roby. I got the impression from the screen that the elbow decision was Roby too.

Why is the video ref not correcting the calls? we are watching the same pictures or has he gone to the bar untill they ask him to look? I am sure that the video ref's in the NRL often change calls or let the ref,s on the field know that an offence has happened & needs sorting.