Gilmore played in the England Academy game at the weekend but missed the cut for whatever reason and Owens has had the combination of injuries and having to bulk up to play SL against him.

This year Widnes have given debuts to Anthony Mullaly,Alex Gerrard, Owens and Gilmore plus if you add Danny Craven and Flynn who were first team players in the championship I'd say Widnes have got a nice amount of home grown players that have played this year.

It isn't a case of teams not producing good enough players it's a case of the best players wanting to go to the teams that win trophies and therefore a kid prefering to go to Wire than Widnes because he knows which side are more likely to have sucess.

I can tell your welsh hull kr for the short time we have been in super league have finished in the top 8 a lot we have finished 4 -7 -7 and at the moment with still time for it to alter 7

Very short memory- Have you forgotten the salary cap breach £400k that saved you only a few short seasons ago.

The Broncos have something like 10 juniors playing in the first team regularly (OK so they are at the bottom of the league). The regular back line of Sargeson, Channing(Wales), Caro, Dixon, O'Callaghan(Ireland) are all from the youth development.

The 9's team that are playing next week in the finals are all kids

LMS & Clubb have both broken through into Eng squads.

It just takes time.

Could someone please post the fixtures on here?

Thanks in advance.

Even in 2006 we still had around 12 players which played super league after being brought through by Wigan.

I've asked on the international forum as well mate, are you going down for some games?

I will depending on where they are. I would also like to help if they need it.

Warm up games
July 25 v Parramatta possibly at Cabramatta
July 28 v NSW u/18 TBA

The two test matches are
August 4 in Canberra @ Canberra Stadium
August 11 in Brisbane TBA

I will try and confirm those venues.

I'll be at all four games.

If you could, Thanks eclipse. Only one I could make would be Parra game.

RB, I just found out the Parramatta game is at Parra Stadium.
The NSW game is at Narrabeen.

I think the fact hull only has one player in general is a sad reflection of how poor jnr development in a hotbed of RL has become compared to the 1980's. Her and UFC are merging their resources to develop better jnr and academy programmes so hopefully that might change in the future.

On a side note I have to smile when people would consider a SL club that has more home grown players but misses the playoffs regularly more of a success compared to a club with fewer homegrown players that regularly makes the finals. Some of you seem to not understand the priority of a sports business!