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| Quote: MikeyWire "Saddened I think i maybe going mad but i agree with all of this...It seems we're getting back to the days of "if they wear a Wigan shirt they have to be in the squad" judging by some of their crying of the pie board...'"
i agree this thread is over the top and thays why i voted no, but its not just wigan fans who cant believe cudjoe is in the sqaud go on to huddersfield board theres a few who was shocked aswell.
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| Quote: Saddened! "You need to get out more. You seem suicidal because McNamara hasn't picked your precious Mickey Mac, who's better than Roby, and Darryl 'Meninga' Goulding who makes Jamie Lyon look like an amateur. Sacking the poor man for not picking two, very average, Wigan players you have a wet patch over would be a tad harsh IMO.
It's a squad for the Exiles game FFS. It's a mix of youth, established players and players he wants to have a look at ahead of the more meaningful games. Surely the fact that there are alternatives and people are suggesting 9 or 10 different options is a good thing? England performed pretty well under McNamara so far and I'd like to see who you would suggest as a better option?'"
Please point out on this thread where I even mentioned those players, oh you cant because I didnt. I stated my reasons in the opening post, which had nothing to do with what you wrote. I dont know why people cant put club loyalties aside when it comes to England. Do you always have to troll or is it simply because I dared to mention Wilkin shouldnt have been picked because he is average?
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| Quote: Albion "I am not pleased with the squad, but sacking him because of that is ridiculous.
I agree, sacking him because of that alone is ridiculous. However did you even read my post because I didnt even mention what Saddened is babbling on about and was talking about the squad which you are not pleased about.
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| Quote: Famous "I agree, sacking him because of that alone is ridiculous. However did you even read my post because I didnt even mention what Saddened is babbling on about and was talking about the squad which you are not pleased about.'"
Your first line isAfter the dreadful squad that McNamara named today should he be sacked?[/i'
So what are you saying then because I seem to have confused the point where you HAVEN'T said that you want to sack him because of this?
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| Quote: Albion "Your first line isAfter the dreadful squad that McNamara named today should he be sacked?[/i'
So what are you saying then because I seem to have confused the point where you HAVEN'T said that you want to sack him because of this?'"
You said sacking him was ridiculous and quoted a post of Saddened's typical anti Wigan bile which rabbits on about 2 Wigan players which I made no mention of. If I ignore the qoute your post makes more sense, however I fail to see why you would include the quote if you werent refering to that. My reply to you made it fairly obvious what I was on about, as well as my opening post which I am fairly certain you didnt read and are just backtracking, so I dont know why you are obtuse.
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| Quote: Famous "You said sacking him was ridiculous and quoted a post of Saddened's typical anti Wigan bile which rabbits on about 2 Wigan players which I made no mention of. If I ignore the qoute your post makes more sense, however I fail to see why you would include the quote if you werent refering to that. My reply to you made it fairly obvious what I was on about, as well as my opening post which I am fairly certain you didnt read and are just backtracking, so I dont know why you are obtuse.'"
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I quoted Saddened's post because I thought it was quite funny...that's why I posted it after what I had said! No need to be so obtuse now Famous
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| Quote: Wire_in_Wigan "What two props would you have in to replace Peacock and Carvell with the people we have available? Bearing in mine players who can play prop such as Burgess and Graham are not available for the squad.'"
Patrick
Lynch
Mcarthy-Scarsbrook
and even Hill before them !!
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| Quote: GIANT DAZ "Patrick
Lynch
Mcarthy-Scarsbrook
and even Hill before them !!'"
I agree. Mcarthy-Scarsbrook has impressed me when I have seen him this year, particularly in the games against Wigan when he has played in beaten packs but has always kept going, good speed and mobility too which is what we need. I would also have Prescott in there but he has had a few injuries this year.
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| Famous is furthering the reputation he's garnered on the Wire forum with this effort.
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| Quote: just_browny "Famous is furthering the reputation he's garnered on the Wire forum with this effort.'"
I still have a long way to go before I get close to your reputation on the Wigan forum though
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| Quote: Albion "I am not pleased with the squad, but sacking him because of that is ridiculous.
This. Calling for him to be sacked because he didn't pick a couple of Wigan players (who I would have picked by the way) is a bit of a knee-jerk.
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| If this question was asked after two terrible performances against the exiles, then I might entertain it, but you want to sack a coach based on his squad selection?!? Without even waiting until they have played first?
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| He's dog turd, utterly clueless.
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| Form in SL is part of the jigsaw, but frankly isn't enough to help McNamara or anyone else pick a side that is capable of taking on Australia. In that respect England are so weak that McNamara will always have to pick some players who are capable of big-game performances even if they're not in the best of form (e.g. Roby to pick a name). Mal Meninga does the same for Queensland with some players, and Ricky Stuart even more so for NSW.
From what I've seen - and not dissing the lad who I hope does become genuine class - Goulding is an OK centre who is rightly making hay in a very dominant team. Charnley OTOH I think has overtaken Briscoe. That's the sort of judgement call the England coach has to be able to make - identify which players in the best side are really contributing to their strength, and which are more or less going along for the ride.
The main selection question mark for me, looking forward to next year (and hoping to hell the likes of Tomkins and Burgess are fit) is halfback. An in-form and confident Brough with Widdopp would be my pick, but McNamara seems to have decided that Sinfield will be the 6 - presumably for his kicking and general sense of control, which so many of our supposed 'playmakers' almost entirely lack. Whilst I can see McNamara's logic, I'd prefer he took a risk and went with halfbacks who ate least might have the capability to unlock a defence.
Happily I'm not the coach, because English RL supporters tend to far too easily hammer the coach for selections (generally not picking somebody from their team) and not taking into account the huge gulf in class they are desperately trying to cross by selecting the majority of their players from SL to play against generally far superior opposition.
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