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Quote: Gronk! "To be fair, Chase has been playing with 16 blokes who are currently poorly imitating professional Rugby League players
I do think Chase is receiving harsh criticism regarding his form. I think the players around him aren't doing enough. If he was in Wigans side, he would be lethal/

If Atkins isn't selected then i'd try Briscoe at centre (I think he could develop into a top centre)

But Mcnamara will go Charnley/Goulding Hardaker/Hall

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1. Tomkins
2. Charnley
3. Goulding
4. Atkins
5. Hall
6. Pryce
7. Brough
8. Lynch
9. Roby
10. Morley
11. Hock
12. Westwood
13. O'Loughlin

14. Burrow
15. Mossop
16. LMS
17. Farrell

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in my humble opinion

1. Sam
2. Charnley
3. Goulding
4. Atkins (if its not to much trouble for him)
5. Hall
6. Chase (I dont agree when people say he has been found out. Hes the only bloke who looks bothered for Cas)
7. Brough (the best kicking game in world RL)......(in my opinion)
8. Mossop (Criminal if he aint picked)
9. Mcllorum (Roby might be a more renowned player, but this lad is THE form 9 in the comp)
10. Lynch (a joke he has not been used as a cornerstone of the English pack over the last few years)
11. Hock (Devastating form and can possibly do 80)
12. Westwood (not seen much of him recently, granted)
13. Lockers

14. Chris Hill
15. Roby
16. LMS
17. NOT Peacock or Morley.

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Will McNamara pick players that aren't in the elite training squad?

I'd go with:

Tomkins
Charnley
Goulding
Atkins
Hall
Chase
Brough
Mossop
McIlorum
Lynch
Hock
Westwood
O'Loughlin

Roby
Crabtree
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Quote: Loyal Leeds Fan "Will McNamara pick players that aren't in the elite training squad?'"

Good point, I'd forgotten about that. I can't see him picking players outside the squad as it then renders the squad meaningless. So out of the elite squad I'd go with:

1. Tomkins
2. Charnley
3. Cudjoe
4. Ablett
5. Hall
6. Chase
7. Brough
8. Carvell
9. Roby
10. Morley
11. Wilkin
12. Westwood
13. O'Loughlin

14. Burrow
15. Mossop
16. Hock
17. Crabtree

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Tickle and Atkins have got into the squad from outside the ETS - rlhttps://www.englandrl.co.uk/article.php?id.

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Tomkins
Charnley
Cudjoe
Atkins
Hall
Chase
Brough
JP
Roby
Mossop
JJB
Tickle
O'loughlian

Burrow
Hock
Carvell
Crabtree

Is how I would line up given the squad announced. However I expect Wilkin and Sinfield to play and i wouldnt play JP but as he he is captain he is certain to start.

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Quote: Him "Good point, I'd forgotten about that. I can't see him picking players outside the squad as it then renders the squad meaningless.'"


Didn't realise the squad was announced today but Ryan Atkins has been picked and he wasn't in the squad, as has Danny Tickle, though I would have liked to have seen Goulding and Lynch in there aswell.

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I find it strange how every season Lynch gets talked up as a potential England player and everyone makes out its some sort of injustice he hasn't been selected. The fact is he has been picked a few times over the years but he's been ruled out through injury or he's had something better to do. Personally I think his time has passed he'll soon be 33 and like Peacock and Morley his best days are behind him and I think it's time we started selecting the likes of Hill, Mossop and Luke Burgess.

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Quote: Charlie Sheen "I find it strange how every season Lynch gets talked up as a potential England player and everyone makes out its some sort of injustice he hasn't been selected. The fact is he has been picked a few times over the years but he's been ruled out through injury or he's had something better to do. Personally I think his time has passed he'll soon be 33 and like Peacock and Morley his best days are behind him and I think it's time we started selecting the likes of Hill, Mossop and Luke Burgess.'"

I think he deserves his shot at least. If the likes of Peacock, who has been rather pedestrian of late, can be picked, then why not Lynch? He's been in great form for Hull. Props often mature as players in their later years. Lynch has still got a while at Hull. I reckon some of the younger players would benefit playing alongside him like they have at Hull.

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How can T Briscoe be anywhere near the Squad never mind Team???
Looks like the England RL squad is the Same as the football team, if your not in the perceived top 4 your not in!!
5 Leeds players ???
That's 5 players from a team not even in the playoffs!!!

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A pointless thread as it is quite obvious that McNamara doesnt pick on form. He was an average player and an even worse coach.

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Quote: Famous "A pointless thread as it is quite obvious that McNamara doesnt pick on form. He was an average player and an even worse coach.'"


Picking on form can only go so far however. You can't pick players like McIllorum and Goulding no matter how well they are perceived to be playing, simply because they are not technically that good.

McIllorum's distribution is horrific, he's simply not an international standard hooker. He is doing well at Wigan as he's part of their team and playing very, very simple rugby. You can see how little individual performances count at Wigan as you perform the same irrespective of who plays.

Same with Goulding, flourishing with Wigan because of how they play. But is he actually any good? He's not IMO. If you put him in the Saints team or Leeds team, he'd look rubbish. Again, not up to international standard irrespective of his sterling form for Wigan.

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Quote: Saddened! "Picking on form can only go so far however. You can't pick players like McIllorum and Goulding no matter how well they are perceived to be playing, simply because they are not technically that good.

McIllorum's distribution is horrific, he's simply not an international standard hooker. He is doing well at Wigan as he's part of their team and playing very, very simple rugby. You can see how little individual performances count at Wigan as you perform the same irrespective of who plays.

Same with Goulding, flourishing with Wigan because of how they play. But is he actually any good? He's not IMO. If you put him in the Saints team or Leeds team, he'd look rubbish. Again, not up to international standard irrespective of his sterling form for Wigan.'"


Absolue rubbish and I can only conclude you have hardly seen either player play, either that or you are just doing your typical Saints troll. On the rare occasions either player has not played this season we have missed both big time, which was acknowledged by Wane after both games. Both players have been instrumental in Wigan's success this year and certainly not just bit part players like you are trying to imply.

McIlorum has been terriffic and offers a damn sight more in a close, tense match where you dont get a quick play the ball than one trick Roby.

Goulding is technically better than any other English centre and has a very good centres brain, which nearly all of Englands other centres lack, and a great all round centres game.

Its okay though I am sure this will give Roby a chance to fail yet again on the international stage or Cudjoe (a Ryan Atkins light version) a game, which may be important seeing as the Huddersfield fans think he is that out of form that he should be dropped for them icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: Saddened! "Picking on form can only go so far however. You can't pick players like McIllorum and Goulding no matter how well they are perceived to be playing, simply because they are not technically that good.

McIllorum's distribution is horrific, he's simply not an international standard hooker. He is doing well at Wigan as he's part of their team and playing very, very simple rugby. You can see how little individual performances count at Wigan as you perform the same irrespective of who plays.

Same with Goulding, flourishing with Wigan because of how they play. But is he actually any good? He's not IMO. If you put him in the Saints team or Leeds team, he'd look rubbish. Again, not up to international standard irrespective of his sterling form for Wigan.'"


talking crap again, if thats the case all saints players should look fantastic if all a team has to do is to play a certain way to make average joes look good.

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