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| Quote: BaldRick "The first few sentences you posted there hint at progress being made . In a few years we have gone from two or three teams dominating the game to seven or eight .
Could it be that the cap is working and things are finally evening out ? Possibly .
Could it possibly happen that in a few more years we see twelve or thirteen teams that are evenly matched ? I doubt it . There will always teams that have a bad season or three no matter how you bend the rules to accommodate them .'"
I certainly think it is progress made. Take Huddersfield for example, top of the league currently with a predominantly young, British side. Didn't think I'd see that 5 years ago. Also, Catalan are a dangerous side this year and they have something like 15 Frenchmen in their squad - some of their youngsters coming through look great talents.
We're never going to have a league with 14 equal teams. That doesn't happen in any sport, let alone one that can be really unforgiving to the lesser teams. A league that has less runaway score lines would be far more entertaining though.
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| Quote: miscreant "More like a 10-team competition.
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Agreed
I dont think it could be any more obvious that a 10 team superleague, with a much imporved national league is the way forward
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| Quote: saintcj "Agreed
I dont think it could be any more obvious that a 10 team superleague, with a much imporved national league is the way forward'"
What would that achieve though? You would just have another 4 clubs become meaningless, poorly supported teams in the championship. If Super League was to be split up surely the best way would be to have 2 leagues of 8, with 2 teams from the championship being promoted to SL tier 2. Tier 1 would be highly competitive, whilst Tier 2 would be equally as entertaining as 8 fairly equal teams battle to gain promotion which would keep attendances high.
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| Quote: saintcj "Agreed
I dont think it could be any more obvious that a 10 team superleague, with a much imporved national league is the way forward'"
London will drop out in time....if they make it to 2014 as they are at the moment I'll be stunned. Who else would you say has to go?
Widnes will be stronger next year and deserve a fair crack at the whip.....but time is aginst them
Does the comp need 2 teams from Hull?
Wakey or Castleford?
Salford have a nice new shiny stadium
Bradford are on shaky ground...financially and with their shed
Leeds, St Helens, Wigan, Warrington, Huddersfield, Hull FC & Catalans would seem to be the best 7......I would say HKR, Bradford and one of Castleford/Wakey would be the 10.
Salford and Widnes, together with one of Castleford/Wakey would be competative in the 2nd tier, but I believe London would struggle initially and might even drop down further.
Of the new comp, I would immediately impose a 80% European BORN AND TRAINED quota, deliver 5 year franchises, with the worst performing team, graded on 4 OPEN AND CLEAR CRITERIA being up against the Best Performing from the lower division for the next 5 years.
The loss of London might reduce the amount of money on offer from TV, but then again, you flatearth lot would get your game back...
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| Rugby league is a sport of blowout scores. The nature of the game makes it this way. You can't stick your whole team in the penalty box or have 15 men rucking up the pitch.
As someone else mentioned the top Premier league teams tend to smash the lower ones 4 or 5-0 unless the wee teams really get up. So we may as well get used to it. Or do one of the only things that might slightly help and have the team who concedes get the ball from the kick off but I don't see why we should do that.
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| It's the difference between the top and the bottom
If the league was reduced to 10 teams it still wouldnt prevent blow out scores
But I stil, think 12 teams in SL makes more sense
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| It's all the fault of franchising!
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| I blame Garry Schofield, Rugby Union and the credit crisis
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| Quote: Big Ask "I blame Garry Schofield, Rugby Union and the credit crisis'"
don't forget the Dalai Lama...that b'stard has a lot to answer for
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| The 2 x10 structure must be the way forward. We must improve the intl product and a more intense SL1 gives that. We must expand and the second tier allows ambitious teams a stepping stone - eg Toulouse. We must give the ambitious Championship teams a goal before it dies - look at yesterdays Championship gates, none broke 1000.
Two full time tens with £500k to SL2 and 1 up 1 down between them, and a 3 year franchise application to SL2. Expand to 12/10 then 12/12 when prudent to do so.
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| Quote: maurice "The 2 x10 structure must be the way forward. We must improve the intl product and a more intense SL1 gives that. We must expand and the second tier allows ambitious teams a stepping stone - eg Toulouse. We must give the ambitious Championship teams a goal before it dies - look at yesterdays Championship gates, none broke 1000.
Two full time tens with £500k to SL2 and 1 up 1 down between them, and a 3 year franchise application to SL2. Expand to 12/10 then 12/12 when prudent to do so.'" You keep banging on about this.
It doesn't matter how many times you state it though as it will never be anything but pie in the sky nonsense!!
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| I will keep going back to it as it is the only way forward, it is like a snowball rolling down a hill.
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| Quote: maurice "I will keep going back to it as it is the only way forward, it is like a snowball rolling down a hill.'" But it isn't
You would have a 10 team SL and then a championship by another name.
How hard a concept is that to grasp?
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| No, you would have two full time divisions containing 20 clubs, with the cream rising and the sheeite falling. If you think there are 6 FT teams in the championship then the moon is made of cream cheese afterall.
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| Police the salary cap properly and make sure every team can spend the full amount, and no more than the full amount. If you can't afford full cap you don;t belong in SL.
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