Perhaps you should be asking more why couldn't Simmons generate that kind of response? It is, after all, a huge part of what he was paid for.

So they have no responsibility then. After all, they get paid as well.

The thought that Leeds were distracted by having spent half an hour earlier in the week having their hair dyed for charity is classic Stevo buffoonery. Sometimes a team just isn't at the races and tonight was such a night for Leeds.

Neither of us said they didn't have a responsibility for it but ultimately if motivation is an issue then it's the coach's responsibility to address it. If a player isn't motivated it isn't always enough just to point the finger at them and ask them why they're not motivated. Sometimes getting motivated requires intervention and that's what the coach is there for.

Does that mean Mike Rush is some kind of seminal, supernatural [iuber coach[/i never seen in sporting history before?

Afterall he's only been in the hot seat a week and he produces the most motivated performance seen from a team all season. Saints played like men posessed.

Obviously whatever simmons has been doing so far this season, the saints players didn't think much to it.

Simmons leaves, rush comes in and says ''just go out there and express yourselves'' and saints let all their frustrtions of recent weeks out.

MIke Rush wasn't doing the motivating at training and pre match, Keiron Cunningham was.

If KC tells you to do something, you bloody well do it.

How do you know that this wasn't the same situation when simmons was in charge?

Maybe it's now the saints players decided they could be bothered, now they got what they wanted.

Keiron Purtill did the talking under Simmons.

That was Saints of old tonight. Roby outstanding.

I need help!
I've been looking for a sky rerun of this game but can't see it on sky again anywhere. My sky box failed to record it today!!!
Does anyone know how I can get to see it?

I haven,t RED too much into that

No.

it must have been the dye getting in their eyes and could not see properly. poor old whinos.

Poor attitude from Leeds from the kickoff. Sts the opposite - the players really had to come out firing to show why they wanted Simmons out. They did that and fair play to them.

Anyone who believes Simmons wasn't the issue is delusional at best. If Royce was still in charge, we'd have never played like that, no.way on earth. We'd have had Lomax and Gaskell in the halves, Makinson on the wing, Meli in the centres, Wheeler in the 20s, TP at prop, Wilkin at Second Row, Clough at Loose, and the final piece - Hohaia on the bench, with no size in the other three subs.

I don't think kc and rush have coached the team to play that way, I just think they've removed the over cautious tactics of Simmons. I don't think we'd see so many offloads all year as tonight, and not once the "lomax, gaskell, wellens" move, which was so obvious, and desperately showed wello's pace up!

Somebody said our only tactic of five drives and see how far gaskell can hoof it was all we had.

Anyone criticising the decisions to remove Royce has gone strangely quiet. One swallow doesn't make a summer, but I'm 100% sure, we'd have never played like that tonight under Simmons [size(ref Paul Shorpe)[/size