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Can't be having players put their hands on the ref - that's football behaviour; correct call which could reasonably be described as harsh but fair.

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How was I not willing to discuss this maturely? I state my thoughts that Bailey is a player in my eyes goes for cheap shots.

I've said a hundred times before, if you can get rid of his attitude he could be a good player.

You can't put your hands on the referee nor can you go steaming up to them shouting alsorts either. McDermott himself agrees that he can't do this

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How was I not willing to discuss this maturely? I state my thoughts that Bailey is a player in my eyes goes for cheap shots.

I've said a hundred times before, if you can get rid of his attitude he could be a good player.

You can't put your hands on the referee nor can you go steaming up to them shouting alsorts either. McDermott himself agrees that he can't do this

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I've thought this for years. He's been very lucky to have won what he has with Leeds.

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I don't think it was malicious but we can't start having players put their hands on the ref just because they feel a bit annoyed. Plus he also pleaded guilty.

Imagine if Bailey played for Wigan? The servers would explode! icon_lol.gif

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Quote: King Street Cat "I've thought this for years. He's been very lucky to have won what he has with Leeds.'"


Isn't it amazing how four Super League and WCC winning coaches disagree?

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Bailey strikes me as a bit like Hock, but softer; he has some great attributes but a poor attitude.

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To keep this on track, Bailey's pushed the ref in my eyes this is him following a line of stupid behaviour as a player.

Agreed I've seen worse however you can't push the ref, now I've not seen the CC semi-final 2010 so I cant vouch for his performance. However I am constantly surprised to see him still in the Leeds Squad considering the quality of players around him. I can't remember a "great" game from him personally (again from my memory).

Perhaps the coaches see something I don't, maybe he's a good player and I'm blinkered?

Again I go back to Brown incident, I don't see how Brown getting high shotted is Browns fault. Bailey picks him up and smacks him one for no reason, he goes looking for it against a smaller player. Thats how I personally see Bailey every game, which is very different to how I look at players like Peacock and Leuleui.

Again my thoughts, my opinion, stupid play from what could be a good player.

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Quote: bren2k "he has some great attributes but a poor attitude.'"


Indeed. He might have got away with a lighter punishment, with a different attitude"The panel believe that Mr Bailey should have dealt with the situation in a different way. There was a deliberate push on the referee and continued petulance showed towards the referee after the try was scored.'"


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Quote: Royston-Vasey "Silverwood got in his way, whats he suppose to do?'"

Say excuse me, sir? Nah, his [ionly[/i choice was to push the referee in the back. icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: TheElectricGlidingWarrior "Say excuse me, sir? Nah, his [ionly[/i choice was to push the referee in the back.
Have you even seen the incident?

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It was an absolute non incident. He shouldnt have been charged with anything let alone a 3 game ban! What is he supposed to do. It was just the same as when you brush past somebody walking down the street. The person who should have been charged was Silverwood for incompetent refereeing. Also why was Westwood not banned for a cheap shot on Webb that bizarrely ended up in a penalty to Wire!

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Think it was very harsh to ban Bails for an incident like this. Although it is setting a standard now.

Main problem is, we see this week in, week out. So will we see consistency, or just every incident similar to this dismissed?

I expect it to be the latter.

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Quote: Sam Buca II "Think it was very harsh to ban Bails for an incident like this. Although it is setting a standard now. '"

The standard for pushing referees was set ages ago. There have been other bans for interfering with the ref. I think it has its own minimum ban doesn't it? They are the officials and whether we hate them or despise them, they are to be respected and Bailey wouldn't recognise the word 'respect' if it hit him around the ears.

I think the word 'petulance' used in the quote taken from the Panel feedback was interesting. Petulance is usually used to describe childish behaviour. That about sums up Bailey. He got what he deserved. He knows the rules and he knows that referees are untouchable, as they should be. The game will be 100% better without him in it.

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Quote: 4thchoicecentre "Perhaps the coaches see something I don't, maybe he's a good player and I'm blinkered?'"


Nail on head

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I have no problem with the ban. You can't deliberately push a ref, even if they are stopping you from tackling someone. If Bailey's attitude post incident added to his ban, sobeit.

As for the rest, the anti Bailey hysteria is indeed classic Bailey. Probably the funniest are those posts that start out attempting to sound rational, then simply fall into the "Why I hate Bailey" tosh. SaintsFan above being a classic example.

BTW another game Bailey did very well in was the 2009 GF against Sts - he and Burgess did a fantastic job from the bench that day. Would I swap him for James Graham? In an instant. Would I swap him for any 2nd/3rd/4th choice prop at any other SL side? Never.

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