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Quote: Chris28 "He'll probably get the same game time as the other props so not sure what the deal is about his starting on the bench. I was worried he was playing too much gametime in the games I saw when he was at Saints, so maybe this will let him give more when he is on, and prolong his career.'"


Good call man, just because they can play 60-70 mins, doesn't meant that this should be the norm, game management is the key for all teams to get the best from each player and for the team.

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Quote: Chris28 "He'll probably get the same game time as the other props so not sure what the deal is about his starting on the bench. I was worried he was playing too much gametime in the games I saw when he was at Saints, so maybe this will let him give more when he is on, and prolong his career.'"


i dont think that it is the fact he is starting on the bench that is the issue, it is the fact that his coach thinks that it will take the best prop in England a while to get up to NRL standard, which is clearly ill informed tosh.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "Good call man, just because they can play 60-70 mins, doesn't meant that this should be the norm, game management is the key for all teams to get the best from each player and for the team.'"


Big difference between 60-70 mins in SL and 60-70 mins in the NRL.

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Minutes are longer in Aus - it's all to do with the curvature of the earth.

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Quote: bren2k "Minutes are longer in Aus - it's all to do with the curvature of the earth.'"

That makes sense. I haven’t done the maths but they certainly seem to be lagging some way behind the rest of the world.... stuck around the 1980’s

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he will smash it up! mark my words. he is the best all round prop we have had in this country for the last 15 years!

they signed him because of his quality, and Hasler is doing the right thing before his 1st game, asking him the question in the media...."are you good enough James?"

James will prove this week in week out, i dont know what the odds are for him to win Dogs player of season, but i might have a look.

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Quote: Sal Paradise "Big difference between 60-70 mins in SL and 60-70 mins in the NRL.'"



He seems to have done OK playing long spells for England against the Aussies. Josh Perry was considered one of best props in the NRL and he looks like a big pudding in SL. Graham will be fine.

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Quote: Charlie Sheen "He seems to have done OK playing long spells for England against the Aussies. Josh Perry was considered one of best props in the NRL and he looks like a big pudding in SL. Graham will be fine.'"


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If anything, Hasler should have expressed even more caution. I'm sure Jammer will be outstanding, but for example how stupid would Royce Simmons look now if he'd said that Josh Perry had the makings of a decent SL player?

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This!

Graham will smash it up of that I have no doubt. Best prop forward I've ever seen (ok I'm not too old icon_wink.gif & this is also keeping Paul Gallen as part back rower icon_lol.gif )

Probably a bit of motivation from Hasler but also like with Ellis understating an English player and then will claim to have really developed him when hhe is shining week in week out!

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Quote: J20 "This!

Graham will smash it up of that I have no doubt. Best prop forward I've ever seen (ok I'm not too old Don't get your Gallen comment am i missing something??

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3 pages on a non story?

Graham needs to prove himself in the NRL first before walking into the run on side of a very good pack. Tolman was awesome last year and Kas compliments him well in the front row. Also like someone else said, the game time he gets will be the same as a couple of other front rowers. You have to remember, Tolman would be a star in any team in the world. Kas and Payne are very good props too. Tolman and Graham are very similar in style so I can see why he is not playing both at once.

Trust Des! I think he know's what he is doing icon_wink.gif

Oh, and Tolman is doubtful anyway on Saturday so if he doesn't make it Graham will start.

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Quote: king benny "Don't get your Gallen comment am i missing something??'"


Personally I'd say Graham best prop world. However would Gallen make that his permanent posistion that could change.

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Quote: J20 "Personally I'd say Graham best prop world. However would Gallen make that his permanent posistion that could change.'"

Gallen is a blown up back rower but has not got the ball skills. very good player workmanlike and tough. but no where near the best out & Out prop. I'l go with Graham on this best in world at moment. the trend of playing prop type players at 13 in becoming more populer and the ball player is on its way out. sides tend to use full back as the extra pivot now.

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Quote: rollin thunder "Gallen is a blown up back rower but has not got the ball skills. very good player workmanlike and tough. but no where near the best out & Out prop. I'l go with Graham on this best in world at moment. the trend of playing prop type players at 13 in becoming more populer and the ball player is on its way out. sides tend to use full back as the extra pivot now.'"



Ironically you may notice that there is actually a shift the other way in the NRL with a few more clubs making ball handling back rowers play at prop.

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