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| Quote: Saddened! "I like that idea. But I'd say the two NRC competitions should be under 24s only, to promote the youth.'"
Or to current Championship quota rules , just as the Challenge cup should be when clubs from different competitions are playing each other |
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| Quote: Starbug "NO, no,no , part time lower league sport doesn't need or want the problems of ' Live ' midweek TV coverage'"
Wouldn't necessarily have to be midweek games though would it? And it must be a decent idea if thats your only gripe... 
It's all hypothetical anyway, as it will never happen. |
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| Quote: Starbug "Or to current Championship quota rules , just as the Challenge cup should be when clubs from different competitions are playing each other'"
The quota rules should be restricted to 2/3 per squad anyway. They should be less reliant on them with less teams in each league. |
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kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: Wheels "Wouldn't necessarily have to be midweek games though would it? And it must be a decent idea if thats your only gripe... ![]() .'"
As you say
It is a compromise , it isn't what any of us really wants , its just that we haven't got what any of us really wants , there is nobody truly happy with the state of RL in this country , apart from our friends down at ' Twickers ' |
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| Quote: Wheels "I'd love to see a truly elite 10 team superleague, with a very strong division 1, and national leagues 2 and 3. All with a top 4 play off, with the grand final winners getting promotion.
Sky could pay the same as they do now for exclusive coverage of the top two divisions (Salford v Leigh or Fev v Wakey should get good ratings), with Premier Sports getting the rights for the National Leagues.
There are a number of ways the extra games could be created if needed...
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An extra thought: The league cup for Divs 1 + 2 could exclude the previous years SuperLeague top 2 or 4 teams for that fancy new World Club Challenge too...
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kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: Wheels "The quota rules should be restricted to 2/3 per squad anyway. They should be less reliant on them with less teams in each league.'"
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It's no coincidence that it's always the same clubs wanting to reduce the numbers.
Less teams means less competition for players, allowing them to hoover up more of the local young talent without other clubs competing.
Super League isn't truly competitive because there simply isn't enough money in it. Once there is and all teams are able to spend up to or very close to the cap it will remain the same. How many clubs are actually making a profit? How many could actually survive without solely being propped up by their financial backers?
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| Quote: Starbug "1 in the Championship'"
I'd be happy with that across the board. |
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| Quote: John Charnock "Bur with fewer teams in the league there would be fewer weeks to show the couple of games, unless additional games were re-introduced on top of everyone playing each other team home and away.'"
(rotating) rest weeks would be needed to spin it out, I guess.
Quote: John Charnock "I'd love to see a truly elite 10 team superleague, with a very strong division 1, and national leagues 2 and 3. All with a top 4 play off, with the grand final winners getting promotion.
Sky could pay the same as they do now for exclusive coverage of the top two divisions (Salford v Leigh or Fev v Wakey should get good ratings), with Premier Sports getting the rights for the National Leagues.
There are a number of ways the extra games could be created if needed...
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It's not bad. But you're putting a lot of weight on your NRC equivalent, being a success - it's a third of the season. Won't teams (and fans) 'de-prioritise' it to focus on the league, if P&R are reintroduced? How competitive will the tier 2 teams be with the tier 1s? Will they be getting the cash freed up by the cut to 10? Because to make P&R workable between 1 and 2 you need to narrow the gap, so relegation isn't so catastrophic and promotion isn't just a passport to a season of batterings.
And what are the gains? The top-flight, our highest visibilty competition shrinks. Either more clubs are cut adrift or the top ones are no better off. And players are just as burned out as they are now.
My issue is that lots of different people seem to want this - but because it means different things to them. It's one of those ideas that chairmen, players, coaches and fans can project their desires onto, all agree it is a great idea and then realise that they were talking about different things when it comes to looking at the mechanics of it.
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Based on last seasons stadings:
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Warrington
Wigan
St Helens
Huddersfield
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Leeds
Catalan
Hull KR
Hull FC
Castleford
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Bradford
Div 1
Salford
London Broncos
Featherstone
Halifax
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Sheffield
Leigh
Widnes
Batley
Dewsbury
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Hunslet
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Barrow
York
Swinton
Keighley
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Rochdale
Workington
Oldham
Whitehaven
North Wales
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South Wales
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Doncaster
Gateshead
London Skolars
Hemel Stags
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Northampton
Coventry
Bristol
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Anon 2
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Anon 3 (Possibly top 3 NCL teams move up?) (Re-Election zone)
NCL/Community game
What do those divisions look like?
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| Quote: Wheels "Based on last seasons stadings
The RFL Bulls would snap your hand off, no way are they in the top 10 clubs (apart from attendance), they are likely to finish just above Widnes and Salford this season.
You are Nigel Wood and I claim £5
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "The RFL Bulls would snap your hand off, no way are they in the top 10 clubs (apart from attendance), they are likely to finish just above Widnes and Salford this season.
You are Nigel Wood and I claim £5'"
That was based on last seasons standings... |
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| Quote: Wheels "Based on last seasons stadings
I know Trinity are often the favourites to take drop into the division below (again) with hypothetical discussions regarding reducing the league size, but to omit them completely is a new one.
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| Quote: Khlav Kalash "I know Trinity are often the favourites to take drop into the division below (again) with hypothetical discussions regarding reducing the league size, but to omit them completely is a tad harsh.'"
Ha sorry! I knew something wasn't quite right! |
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Lets just hopo that some warning is given to any proposed change and that the teams can play for their place in the top flight ?
Or will we have a cull after the end of the season "because the TV deal was too good to miss".
De ja vu anybody ?
Its like Uncle Maurice is back in charge !
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