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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



Sam Tomkins. He just gets better and better. I feel we may need to rely on him more and more.

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Yeaman is a bargain with them odds!

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Mcgilvary for giants me thinks.. Would like to think he stands a good chance of being top try scorer in super league 2012.

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Quote: Jonesy "Were many SL Clubs watching his prowess under the high ball in the 4 Nations?
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St Helens tried it in the CCSF and failed miserably. He had an off day.

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"I've been rich & I've been poor. Rich is better." DLR:



Think Shannon McDonnell will score a few, a good outside bet @ 40/1

Can see Darly Millard (can't see him on the list?) going well, Pryce / Anderson could really sharpen up Catalans left side

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Watkins, one to watch IMO.

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Cannot believe the odds of Robertson. He was my tip way back when the Broncos signed him. at 50/1 is an unbelievable pricea andi'll defintely be having a punt. Halls always scores tries and his performances in the 4N will give him an unbeliavble amount of confidence. The corner flag been taken out could see a lot more tries by wingers. Still think it makes it too easy.

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Quote: Bull Mania "Cannot believe the odds of Robertson. He was my tip way back when the Broncos signed him. at 50/1 is an unbelievable pricea andi'll defintely be having a punt. Halls always scores tries and his performances in the 4N will give him an unbeliavble amount of confidence. The corner flag been taken out could see a lot more tries by wingers. Still think it makes it too easy.'"


Have they now taken the corner flag out of consideration?

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Quote: Bull Mania "Cannot believe the odds of Robertson. He was my tip way back when the Broncos signed him. at 50/1 is an unbelievable pricea andi'll defintely be having a punt.'"


Unfortunately the top try scorer usually comes from one of the top-scoring team. However good Robertson is, he simply won't get the number of chances to score as he would playing for a top four team. I'd be very surprised if the top try-scorer came from a club outside the top 4, with Ryan Hall being the possible exception.

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Quote: nottinghamtiger "Unfortunately the top try scorer usually comes from one of the top-scoring team. However good Robertson is, he simply won't get the number of chances to score as he would playing for a top four team. I'd be very surprised if the top try-scorer came from a club outside the top 4, with Ryan Hall being the possible exception.'"


2003 & 2004......have a look at the record books and see who was the top try scorer those years, what team he played for and where the team finished in the League. 2005 wasn't such a good year for him though...or the team he signed for....they nearly went down icon_lol.gif

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Ryan............that's Hall not Bailey......or Tomkins....that's Sam not Joel. I think Hardaker and maybe Blanch might be up there with them.

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Quote: gutterfax "2003 & 2004......have a look at the record books and see who was the top try scorer those years, what team he played for and where the team finished in the League. 2005 wasn't such a good year for him though...or the team he signed for....they nearly went down
In fairness I did say usually, so a few exceptions from the SL era hardly blows away my point.
Anyway, 2004 was Vianakolo according to Wikipedia (Bradford finished 2nd)
So:
1996 Newlove, Saints, 1st.
1997 Vagana, Warrington, 9th
1998 Sullivan, Saints, 4th
1999 Kohe-Love, Warrington, 7th.
2000 Long, Saints, 2nd.
2001 Radlinski, Wigan, 2nd
2002 Dennis Moran, London, 8th
2003 Dennis Moran, London, 5th.
2004 Vianakolo, Bradford, 2nd.
2005 Calderwood, Leeds, 2nd.
2006 Lyon, Saints, 1st.
2007 Fa'afili, Warrington, 7th
2008 Gardner, Saints, 1st.
2009 Hall, Leeds, 1st.
2010 Richards, Wigan, 1st
2011 Tomkins, Wigan, 2nd.
In the last 8 seasons, only once has the top try scorer not played for the team finishing 1st or 2nd.
Only 1 player has been SL top try scorer twice. I always thought Vianakolo had been top try scorer practically every season he was a Bradford!

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Quote: nottinghamtiger "Unfortunately the top try scorer usually comes from one of the top-scoring team. However good Robertson is, he simply won't get the number of chances to score as he would playing for a top four team. I'd be very surprised if the top try-scorer came from a club outside the top 4, with Ryan Hall being the possible exception.'"


Is that a little dig at Leeds? Do you not think Leeds will finish in the top 4 this season? We may have finished 5th last season but we were 4th in terms of total tries scored!!

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Quote: jarvis12345 "Is that a little did at Leeds? Do you not think Leeds will finish in the top 4 this season? We may have finished 5th last season but we were 4th in terms of total tries scored!!'"


Not at all a dig, I said 'possible' exception because I don't think Leeds are definately going to finish in the top 4. I think it will be four of Warrington/Saints/Wigan/Hull FC/Leeds for top 4.

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Quote: nottinghamtiger "Not at all a dig, I said 'possible' exception because I don't think Leeds are definately going to finish in the top 4. I think it will be four of Warrington/Saints/Wigan/Hull FC/Leeds for top 4.'"


You think Catalan and Huddersfield will be worse than Hull this year? Apart from a new coach have they improved much on last years squad? Each to there own but I think they will probably finish 7th.

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