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| Quote: Starbug "
As Smokey has pointed out in the other thread, no club should be happy to remain where they currently are, and my club is no different to that , however it seems to me that some within the sport want certain clubs to remain weak, in an attempt to make newer, more locationally attractive clubs look stronger than they are'"
Ah right, is that why they let Leeds win the GF?
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| Quote: Starbug "As Smokey has pointed out in the other thread, no club should be happy to remain where they currently are, and my club is no different to that , however it seems to me that some within the sport want certain clubs to remain weak, in an attempt to make newer, more locationally attractive clubs look stronger than they are'"
Or maybe they think a club like leigh is of an age where it should be able to stan on its own two feet.
I've seen nothing from the RFL which all but the paraniod nutcases could construe as disavantaging clubs like Leigh
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| Quote: wire quin "Its growth for the club, expansion for the game and therefore growth for the RFL
The game being played in new areas is the game expanding and growing
The game being played more in the same areas is the game growing and expanding just not nationally but locally'"
I disagree, i dont know why you want to pretend they are the same, they clearly are different.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "Or maybe they think a club like leigh is of an age where it should be able to stan on its own two feet.
I've seen nothing from the RFL which all but the paraniod nutcases could construe as disavantaging clubs like Leigh'"
So what ' age ' does a club become old enough to stand on its own two feet?
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| Quote: Starbug "So what ' age ' does a club become old enough to stand on its own two feet?'"
When it gets to 5.
5 rich directors' with bottomless pockets.
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| When RU "moved on" clubs fell by the wayside-Richmond a very traditional RU club close by to Quins, London Welsh & Scottish, West Hartlepool, Orrell etc but that doesnt seem to have held union back. There will always be winners and losers
It does look like Leigh are finished in the big time-The market in the local area is full and Leigh has been the casualty.
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| So expansion isn't growth?
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| Quote: Starbug "As Smokey has pointed out in the other thread, no club should be happy to remain where they currently are, and my club is no different to that , however it seems to me that some within the sport want certain clubs to remain weak, in an attempt to make newer, more locationally attractive clubs look stronger than they are'" Nobody wants any clubs to be weak. The fact is that the majority of Championship clubs are unlikely to progress too much beyond the level they are currently at, because they are based in areas where the potential for growth is extremely limited. For some reason, fans of these clubs seem to believe that they should warrant a disproportionate amount of effort and attention simply because they are otherwise unable to compete. Denying them that doesn't mean that anyone wants the clubs to remain weak. It just means that the clubs aren't big enough to compete at the top level in the modern era.
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| Quote: wire quin "So expansion isn't growth?'"
Growth isnt expansion.
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| Quote: headhunter "Nobody wants any clubs to be weak. The fact is that the majority of Championship clubs are unlikely to progress too much beyond the level they are currently at, because they are based in areas where the potential for growth is extremely limited. For some reason, fans of these clubs seem to believe that they should warrant a disproportionate amount of effort and attention simply because they are otherwise unable to compete. Denying them that doesn't mean that anyone wants the clubs to remain weak. It just means that the clubs aren't big enough to compete at the top level in the modern era.'"
Completely agree, but it seems to me that you are talking clubs whereas i am actually discussing a whole competition , however if the fans of these clubs accept what you suggest they should do then they will ultimatley wither and die, if say Featherstone were to aquire a billionaire investor , would they be considered ' big ' enough?
All i actually want is all clubs in all competitions to be given the same respect, but when i look at what has so far been done to make the Championships ( both of them ) " Vibrant, worth winning in their own right competitions " , I dont see anything of genuine value, simple as
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| Quote: headhunter "The fact is that the majority of Championship clubs are unlikely to progress too much beyond the level they are currently at, because they are based in areas where the potential for growth is extremely limited.'"
What areas are these?
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| Quote: Starbug "Completely agree, but it seems to me that you are talking clubs whereas i am actually discussing a whole competition , however if the fans of these clubs accept what you suggest they should do then they will ultimatley wither and die, if say Featherstone were to aquire a billionaire investor , would they be considered ' big ' enough?'" If Featherstone acquired a billionaire investor, they would clearly be able to compete at SL level simply because they would have the financial power to do so, they would be the richest club in the league. But the impact that a billionaire would have from investing in a club like Featherstone would be limited compared to what could be achieved elsewhere. It's a redundant argument anyway since I don't think there are too many billionaires or even potential investors in Featherstone.
Quote: Starbug "All i actually want is all clubs in all competitions to be given the same respect, but when i look at what has so far been done to make the Championships ( both of them ) " Vibrant, worth winning in their own right competitions " , I dont see anything of genuine value, simple as'" What would constitute 'respect' to you, other than unconditionally giving disproportionate amounts of money to undeserving clubs?
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| Quote: headhunter "If Featherstone acquired a billionaire investor, they would clearly be able to compete at SL level simply because they would have the financial power to do so, they would be the richest club in the league. But the impact that a billionaire would have from investing in a club like Featherstone would be limited compared to what could be achieved elsewhere. It's a redundant argument anyway since I don't think there are too many billionaires or even potential investors in Featherstone.
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So you agree, it is all about money , and why would it be limited? ,if they had the money, they could achieve whatever they wanted, but you are correct , why would anybody invest in a club that cannot be promoted?
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| Headhunter, when you talk do you bend over the toilet to stop people slipping in it?
I can't decide if you're for real or just a parody of the traits found in an idiot!
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| Quote: freddies wig "Headhunter, when you talk do you bend over the toilet to stop people slipping in it?
'" Is this a common problem you have? I've just never heard of people slipping in toilets unless there is someone bent over talking in to is.
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