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| We are quite obviously 216486816 billion pounds over the cap.
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| Quote: east hull FC fan " If, for example, a Wigan or Saints provide 4 qualifying players to the squad and Castleford/ Wakey only 1 each, then Wigan and Saints will potentially have a lot more 'spare' money to open an even further gap between lower clubs.
This 'system' is wide open to misuse, creative accounting and just pure abuse.'"
and well done to the clubs for producing players!!!
For too long the quality has been diluted to the point where are today. The rest need to raise their standards in youth development etc not the other way round.
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| Quote: Pepe "The sooner we bring in some sort of points system in the better. I think that home-grown players, brought through the academies and into the first team, shouldn't count on the cap at all.'"
Not sure we are at the stage where player production rates could sustain it yet, but eventually I'd prefer to see the cap slashed with home-grown players not being counted against it at all.
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| Quote: DannyT "and well done to the clubs for producing players!!!
For too long the quality has been diluted to the point where are today. The rest need to raise their standards in youth development etc not the other way round.'"
How is it being diluted?
If you allow clubs with sugar daddys to spend millions developing players, then allow them to break the cap to keep them then RL will be in a poor state in 10 years.
My main point though is of central contracts, it would allow clubs unable to spend to full cap to keep their England stars, plus topping up the 'top players' wages to keep union and the NRL away.
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| Have the specifics of this change been announced yet?
Could completely change SL, depending obviously on the details of the new exemptions. If Sam Tomkins is marquee surely Ryan Hall is now too. James Roby, Rhys Evans at Warrington. Josh Charley, Hardaker, Lomax, the young Cas hooker who is wanted by several NRL clubs. Just how far will it reach and how many will each side be allowed?
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| Wigan thumb their nose at fairness and equality, again.
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CHAMPIONS: 1904-05
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Runners Up: 1907, 1912, 1924, 1926
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| Quote: east hull FC fan "
My main point though is of central contracts, it would allow clubs unable to spend to full cap to keep their England stars, plus topping up the 'top players' wages to keep union and the NRL away.'"
we should'nt be keeping the NRL away
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| It does, on the face of it, appear to be a rule that will help the big clubs spend more money on wages.
I cant see many of the small/middle tier clubs getting much of an advantage from this ruling.... most cant spend up to the cap anyway.....
May as well just scrap the cap and let everyone get on with it.
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| Quote: Saddened! "Have the specifics of this change been announced yet?
Could completely change SL, depending obviously on the details of the new exemptions. If Sam Tomkins is marquee surely Ryan Hall is now too. James Roby, Rhys Evans at Warrington. Josh Charley, Hardaker, Lomax, the young Cas hooker who is wanted by several NRL clubs. Just how far will it reach and how many will each side be allowed?'"
That's the whole point though, they are. It's not just Wigan that have got this.
Most people have been calling for a system where home grown players, or international stars etc etc only count for a certain amount on the cap.
Just because Wigan have been the ones actually suggesting this to the RFL doesn't mean that it is any less beneficial to every other team in the league (If they got their s in gear).
The main problem with this is that instead of the RFL announcing it properly, explaining the rules to everyone etc etc, its come out as a bi-product of Sam Tomkins new contract, making it look like Wigan are doing something wrong (which they aren't, the RFL have agreed and it is new laws that will apply across the entire league).
If this new rule means that Jonny Lomax (for example) can recieve a much bigger contract to keep him away from Union in 2 years time, will you still be moaning about the fact that it took the genuine threat of Tomkins going elsewhere to make it happen?
This is a good thing, and shockingly enough the clubs who will benefit most are the ones who produce their own players who go onto international success.
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| Quote: inside_man "doesn't mean that it is any less beneficial to every other team in the league.'"
You obviously know that's not true.
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| Quote: morleys_deckchair "
Maybe if you produced your own players, it would be
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[b:1wlcmlhe][color=#800000:1wlcmlhe]WIGAN RLFC - SL ERA
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CHALLENGE CUP FINAL WINNERS 2002, 2011, 2013, 2022 & 2024
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BEST SUPPORTED CLUB OF THE YEAR 2010, 2011, 2012 & 2024
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| Quote: inside_man "Maybe if you produced your own players, it would be
Why do that when they can just rape Salford every twelve months?
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| Quote: roughyedspud "we should'nt be keeping the NRL away'"
Surely the aim is to make SL better?
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| Quote: morleys_deckchair "It does, on the face of it, appear to be a rule that will help the big clubs spend more money on wages.
I cant see many of the small/middle tier clubs getting much of an advantage from this ruling.... most cant spend up to the cap anyway.....
May as well just scrap the cap and let everyone get on with it.'"
In a nutshell.
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14417.gif OLDHAM RLFC
RUGBY LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP
WINNERS: 1904-05 1909-10, 1910-11, 1956-57
Runners Up: 1906-07, 1907-08, 1908-09, 1921-22, 1954-55
FIRST DIVISION
CHAMPIONS: 1904-05
RUGBY LEAGUE CHALLENGE CUP
WINNERS: 1899, 1925, 1927
Runners Up: 1907, 1912, 1924, 1926
LANCASHIRE CUP
WINNERS: 1906–07, 1909–10, 1912–13, 1918–19, 1923–24, 1932–33, 1955–56, 1956–57, 1957–58
Runners Up: 1897–98, 1900–01, 1907–08, 1909–10, 1921–22, 1956–57, 1957–58
LANCASHIRE LEAGUE
CHAMPIONS: 1897-98, 1900-01, 1907-08, 1909-10, 1921-22, 1956-57, 1957-58
Runners Up: 1895-96, 1896-97, 1898-99, 1899-1900, 1908-09, 1910-11, 1911-12, 1923-24, 1954-55
SECOND DIVISION
CHAMPIONS: 1963-64, 1981-82, 1987-88
SECOND / DIVISIONAL PREMIERSHIP
WINNERS: 1988, 1990
Runners Up: 1992
NORTHERN FORD PREMERSHIP
Runners up : 2001
NATIONAL LEAGUE TWO/CHAMPIONSHIP 1
Play off final runners up: 2007,2008,2009,2010:14417.gif |
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| Quote: east hull FC fan "Surely the aim is to make SL better?'"
nope..the aim should be to make ENGLAND RL better
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