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| I hope that race hasn't been used for determining who the statue should be.Sporting prowess should be the only determinant.
Either way, I can't see how Jim Sullivan wasn't included in that list.
Lance Todd is more well known due to the fact that the MOM at the Wembley CC final decision being named after Lance Todd because he was a journalist, not because of his playing career.
AFAIK Todd never played at Wembley. Even though Todd was a member of the great Wigan threequarter line of 'Leytham,Jenkins,Todd and Miller' of pre-WW1, his playing career profile didn't increase after he left Wigan.
He did play for NZ pre-WW1.
It does seem to me an odd inclusion.
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| Quote: fleabag "Lance Todd is more well known due to the fact that the MOM at the Wembley CC final decision being named after Lance Todd because he was a journalist, not because of his playing career.
It does seem to me an odd inclusion.'"
Lest we forget that Lance Todd is also one of the most successful coaches in rugby league history. He was the first man to manage a club to back-to-back Wembley finals — in 1938 & ’39 with Salford.
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| As a bloke of 28 and a Wigan fan my stand out memory from all my Wembley visits is Martin Offiah knelt with his head in his hands after scoring a simply amazing try.
Im bias but I'd love to see that.
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| I really dont agree with any one player being raised above all the rest in this way , after all so many greats have played this great game over the last hundred years or so and not one of the took to them field alone .
Something iconic of the sport would be more fitting to be raised so every fan of every club can look at it and know there team had a part in it .
I have posted this elsewhere and will bang my lonely drum in the hope that someone somewhere will see the logic behind it .
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| Quote: NAT "I really dont agree with any one player being raised above all the rest in this way , after all so many greats have played this great game over the last hundred years or so and not one of the took to them field alone .
Something iconic of the sport would be more fitting to be raised so every fan of every club can look at it and know there team had a part in it .
I have posted this elsewhere and will bang my lonely drum in the hope that someone somewhere will see the logic behind it .'"
The Ozzies had those two blokes for the Winfield cup. Similar sentiment I suppose.
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| Quote: Saddened! "It would in itself be racist to select a statue because it's of a black person though.
Whoever it is should be wearing an international jersey. I don't want some Goon representing the sport unless they are clearly in an England/GB kit.'" Unless that Black person was infact the first Black english captain thus proving RL as a forward thinking sport surely?
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| I think it should be Clive Sullivan,the last GB captain to win the RLWC,
He'd be alongside Bobby Moore,the last England captain to win the World Cup.
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Quote: fleabag "The Ozzies had those two blokes for the Winfield cup. Similar sentiment I suppose.
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'Those two blokes' also known as Summons and Provan, symbolise the true spirit of RL and professional sportsmanship. They were each the respective captains of their teams and the sculpture is from a picture taken at the end of the NSW Grand Final, I am unsure of the year.
Anyway I know they both hold (held in terms of Provan) Australian Caps and that the same sculpture apears within the centre of the NRL trophy.
They are also seen at the end of this video: youtu.be/BuhCPjvn83Y
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Quote: fleabag "The Ozzies had those two blokes for the Winfield cup. Similar sentiment I suppose.
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'Those two blokes' also known as Summons and Provan, symbolise the true spirit of RL and professional sportsmanship. They were each the respective captains of their teams and the sculpture is from a picture taken at the end of the NSW Grand Final, I am unsure of the year.
Anyway I know they both hold (held in terms of Provan) Australian Caps and that the same sculpture apears within the centre of the NRL trophy.
They are also seen at the end of this video: youtu.be/BuhCPjvn83Y
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| I hope they do a better job of Wembley statue than that monstrosity - it looks like one of those tacky ornaments that old people have on their sideboards; all that's missing is a collie dog looking up adoringly at the little fella.
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| Neil Fox played in four decades and is the record points scorer, aswell as conducting himself as a gentleman. That takes some beating.
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| Why do we as a nation always feel we have to discuss or even mention whether a player is black or white. It shouldn't even need to come into the discussion. Where all people and they are all Rugby league players, Colour, creed and origin shouldn't matter one iota and therefore not need to be brought up as a discussion point.
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| Quote: Easty "Why do we as a nation always feel we have to discuss or even mention whether a player is black or white.'"
Do we always?
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| Quote: Easty "Why do we as a nation always feel we have to discuss or even mention whether a player is black or white. It shouldn't even need to come into the discussion. Where all people and they are all Rugby league players, Colour, creed and origin shouldn't matter one iota and therefore not need to be brought up as a discussion point.'" The only reason I mentioned Clive's colour was because it showed RL in a good light for once as a forward thinking sport.
It showed that RL is great for any/everybody and that no one is omited or excluded.
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| Sully for me too.
Due to the tribal nature of RL, I think the statue should depict someone or something that the whole of RL in the UK can feel some affinity to.
Although he doesn't have a connection to Wembley as strong as some others on the shortlist, I still think that a statue of the captain of our last World Cup winning side, will unite fans of all clubs (he scored a try in the final too).
In football, they could have put up a statue of Ryan Giggs (for instance) outside Wembley. A Man Utd player who has made a record-breaking number of apps and won plenty of trophies at Wembley. For fans of Man Utd this would be great, but would fans of other clubs care?
Bobby Moore, captain of England world cup winning side is there now. Do you think that if Bobby Morre had captained England to a World Cup win hosted in another country, that there wouldn't be a statue of him as it wasn't played at Wembley?
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