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| Quote: Jake the Peg "We're desperate for an organising scrum half. Doesn't matter which 2 of chase/widdop/sinfield we play, it won't be any better'"
Which is why we should have had Brough in, his partnership with Widdop would have been a mirror of the Cronki-Widdop partnership at Melbourne. That then removes the need to shoe horn Sinfield into the team which means we can run with a bigger more effective pack. The inclusion of Brough would also mean no need to pick Chase and therefore not pi55 lots of fans off.
A better balanced team, a better kicking game especially near the try line and with Heighington at 13 we have a very tough, mobile, fit and defensively sound back row three.
The front row takes care of itself but Carvel MUST come onto the bench.
The three quarters have looked solid and Tomkins, nuff said.
It's so disappointing that we could have put a really well balanced and competitve side out but instead we've tinkered with selections to make room for certain players.
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| Quote: nw636 "Chase had a poor game, made far too many wrong decisions. '"
Yep, just set up the first 2 tries and another one later on.
The reason the half backs weren't working together is because unless the play the ball was right on one edge, they were playing with split halves...which is a terrible tactic.
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| The main reason for Sinfield at 6 was for his organisational skills and generally marshalling of the side just like he does at Leeds.
if its not worked or looking likely to then its got to be Widdop and Chase at 6 and 7 but it leaves us without a top drawer (excuse the pun) kicking game.
An 'inform' Brough would have been the answer, but at the end of the year he was out of form although I would have found room for him in the squad, certainly over McGuire
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| Sinfield is the organising style of player we need i think. But over the past 2 weeks his play seems to be done slowly without any spark. Widdop or Chase should be playing 6 with Brough at 7 imo.
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| Get Widdop on!
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| Chase and Sinfield have been given two games and it hasn't worked so things need to change for the next two games, especially as we have had the stand off for this years NRL minor premiers starting on the bench. I would have Sinfield at 7 to marshall the team and Widdop at 6.
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| Quote: Red Red Robin "Chase and Sinfield have been given two games and it hasn't worked so things need to change for the next two games, especially as we have had the stand off for this years NRL minor premiers starting on the bench. I would have Sinfield at 7 to marshall the team and Widdop at 6.'"
I thought we looked better with Widdop and Sinfield on the pitch together. Chase started brighly but second half he made a lot of bad decisions and made poor plays. Sinfield looked better with him off as well.
Another option would be to lose Wilkin and have Sinfield fill that role, start him at 13 and let him try and work with Widdop, Chase and Roby.
Then again, what do you expect when neither plays together and both play in completely different team structures. At least Leeds fans might be able to see how Chase would fit with Sinny when we swap him for Burrow.. ![Wink icon_wink.gif](images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| I think we have to stick with what we've got. I think Sinfield had a really good game today.
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| Sinfield was anonymous, he did hardly anything even his goal kicking was . Chase at least made some things happen even though he made some absolutley terrible decisions at times. Widdop has looked better than both in the little time he has had in the last two games. If Widdop doesnt start vs the Aussies its a disgrace imo.
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| Quote: Red Red Robin "Chase and Sinfield have been given two games and it hasn't worked so things need to change for the next two games, especially as we have had the stand off for this years NRL minor premiers starting on the bench. I would have Sinfield at 7 to marshall the team and Widdop at 6.'"
You've just justified why we should PERSEVERE with the same half-back combination. They've played 2 games together and not had enough competitive games to try out combinations, get used to each other etc.
How many weeks/months does it take to settle new halves together at a club level? I'm pretty sure they're not super dooper together after two games.
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| Quote: Wandering Warrior "Sinfield was anonymous, he did hardly anything even his goal kicking was poop. Chase at least made some things happen even though he made some absolutley terrible decisions at times. Widdop has looked better than both in the little time he has had in the last two games. If Widdop doesnt start vs the Aussies its a disgrace imo.'"
If you taped the game watch it again when your sober. Sinfields goal kicking was below his usual standard but his general play was good. He had a hand in several tries and was the better of the two halves by a distance
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| Quote: Wandering Warrior "Sinfield was anonymous, he did hardly anything even his goal kicking was poop. Chase at least made some things happen even though he made some absolutley terrible decisions at times. Widdop has looked better than both in the little time he has had in the last two games. If Widdop doesnt start vs the Aussies its a disgrace imo.'"
Wow, did you really watch the game?
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| What a load of crap!! People just listen to what the commentators say and base all their opinions on that! Chase and Sinfield had a hand in the first 3 tries, kept turning them round with kicks. I can only remember Chase making one poor kick when he should have passed. Davies spent too much time moaning about England played rather than commentating on the game
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| I would stick with the same team.
Possibly swap Carvell for Wilkin.
maybe swap chase for widdop.
chase could ad some zip from the bench which I think we miss from robinson/burrow
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| Quote: saintcj "
chase could ad some zip from the bench which I think we miss from robinson/burrow'"
Good point. We have nothing to offer from the bench otherwise. Suggests the coach isn't concerned that we'll ever get behind and need to change things!
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