I didnt say he is crap, fine he may be a decent club man but my opinion of seeing him play for Leeds, is that he is pretty average but works hard, too many stupid passes/pens and shouldn't be playing international RL.

Too many people are of the opinion that if you are a hard working club player, then you should be playing for your country. We need players with a touch of skill in the team, not Abletts.

He's played all season, out of position and not looked out of place for a championship winning side, nothing average about that really!

Yes, he worked hard in a team that won SL, well done, but that still doesn't mean he isn't an average player.

He is average, typical England standard really. 4 Nations is going to be once again very embarrassing for us English.

Don't have a problem. Decent player, in reasonable form.

I'd definitely pick Carl Ablett. He's played very well this season. He's also hard as nails, consistent and a bit of a house, which is what you need against the Aussies.

Stick him on the bench, he can either come on as a forward, or cover injuries and he won't let you down. England have made way worse choices in the past decade than this. My reservation is he gives penalties away, but i'd like to know what a Loiner thought of me thinking this as they've obviously seen him way more than me.