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Quote: Madderzahatter "Really surprised no Brough (kicking game) or Burrow (game changer from the bench)

Bailey just brings niggle and Sinfield has never turned up at international level IMO'"

Burrow is injured!!!!!!!!!

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Quote: Wigg'n "Squad picks itself imo.

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McIlorum, Morley, JJB, Peacock

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It picks itself if you leave out the stand-off from the team who finished top of the NRL ladder. I would have Widdop at 6 without doubt

and I would take Heighington over JJB

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Carl Abblett vs Ryan Atkins is the strangest decision for me...

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my team

1. sam tomkins
2. ryan hall
3. carl ablett (why split up a grand final winning partnership to select jack reed?)
4. kirk yeaman
5. tom briscoe
6. gareth widdop
7. rangi chase
8. jamie Peacock
9. james Roby
10. jamesGraham
11. gareth Ellis
12. ben Westwood
13. kev Sinfield

14. gareth Carvell
15. adrian Morley
16. jon wilkin
17. jonny lomax

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Quote: Mark_W "In what way is Brough "a big game player"?'"


He generaly plays well in big games.

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Quote: nathanwood7 "Carl Abblett vs Ryan Atkins is the strangest decision for me...'"

why? Ablett has been a revelation at centre for leeds this season. Its easy for ryan atkins to look like a beast when the rest of his team are ripping the opposition to shreds for most of the season.

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Looks mostly OK but would have had Atkins, Brough and Robinson in there in place of Ablett, Lomax and Mcilorum.

I still don't understand the fuss about Lomax, Gaskell to me looks the better player. Lomax will probably turn into something with time but shouldn't be in the 17 now.

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Quote: Madderzahatter "Really surprised no Brough (kicking game) or Burrow (game changer from the bench)

Bailey just brings niggle and Sinfield has never turned up at international level IMO'"


Bit harsh on Sinfield. When he's been played as a replacement hooker he's looked decent. At 6 or 13 he's struggled.

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Hardly in the same league as Atkins.

Ablett

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Shirt number 12
Appearances 24
Tries 4
Try assists 10
Goals 0
Drop Goals 0
Meters 2054
Carries 292
Tackles 524
Offloads 24
Attacking Kicks 5
Runs from dummy half 14
Tackle Busts 27
Marker tackles 54
Clean Breaks 14
Forty twenty 0
Kicks in general play 5
Missed goals 0
Missed tackles 32
Errors 21
Penalties 13
Red cards 0
Yellow cards 0


Atkins

4 Position
23 Shirt number
23 Appearances
21 Tries
12 Try assists
0 Goals
0 Drop Goals
2113 Meters
244 Carries
278 Tackles
22 Offloads
6 Attacking Kicks
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Quote: ComeOnYouWolves "<snip>'"

Atkins is a proven failure at international level though.

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Quote: Old_Faithful_IAKW "Atkins is a proven failure at international level though.'"


What one tour? When he has improved ten fold since last year......

If thats the case then 80% of that squad have failed multiple times and shouldnt be anywhere near using your logic

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Quote: ComeOnYouWolves "What one tour? When he has improved ten fold since last year......

If thats the case then 80% of that squad have failed multiple times and shouldnt be anywhere near using your logic'"

He was absolutely torn apart, right decision for me.

www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2011

He stats don't suggest to me that he's improved 'ten fold' either.
Quote: ComeOnYouWolves "What one tour? When he has improved ten fold since last year......

If thats the case then 80% of that squad have failed multiple times and shouldnt be anywhere near using your logic'"

He was absolutely torn apart, right decision for me.

www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2011

He stats don't suggest to me that he's improved 'ten fold' either.


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20 less missed tackles for the season. 66% less missed tackles. More clean breaks, more tries. Less penalties.

Its his things like decision making have improved, did you see the match against Hull with the offload for Rileys try. Phil Clarke said that that was one of the big improvements that Atkins has made.

Why did he fail at international level? For his defence or attack? If it was his defence then thats improved, if it was his attack i would put a lot of that down to the inability of the halfbacks for him not getting the ball.

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Quote: West Country Eagle "Bit harsh on Sinfield. When he's been played as a replacement hooker he's looked decent. At 6 or 13 he's struggled.'"


You mean 13, the position he's played at most of his career? He's got bottle, but still massively overrated IMO

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Atkins was by far the biggest failure last year on the tour. He was ripped to shreds.

Not that I am suggesting Ablett should be anywhere near the England setup, by the way. Guess it will have to be Jack Reed.

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