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Quote: Willzay "No, will only win Wales'"


Why would we want Wales? Haven't we tried to get rid of it once?

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Would be a fair effort without Burgess, O'Loughlin, Crabtree and possibly Joel Tomkins.

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Quote: The Eclipse "Would be a fair effort without Burgess, O'Loughlin, Crabtree and possibly Joel Tomkins.'"


Agree on Burgess and O'Loughlin, don't think the other two would make the starting 17.

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We've got as good a team on paper as we have for a long while and you'd hope that would translate to performances on the field but it probably balances out due to us having McNamara as coach!

Our best hope of winning the thing is if the Kiwi's beat the Aussies at Warrington and then we manage to make them panic the week after at Wembley and beat them. Thats easier said then done as they're used to high pressure game but it would have to be that way as you just can't see us beating them in a final.

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Quote: Saddened! "We have this every year. We watch these players do well and figure they're great.

But we lack the mentality, ruthlessness and togetherness to beat Australia IMO.'"

Once again, the English Rugby league fascination, obsession and inferiority complex with all things Australian rises to the surface

The Australians hold exactly as many international trophies as we do so why should we be talking about beating them and not the Kiwi’s? The New Zealand team and public have shaken off their inferiority complex, so should we

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How long will it be before pressure is applied to make England win a series for the good of the game.
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Looking at how many players from Australia and NZ that are injured or electing for off season surgery, this may be the year.

The game needs England to win a series more than any other sport contested by only 3 teams.

It was supposed to happen a few years ago when NZ were stripped of points for fielding an ineligible player but it was not enough to get GB in the final alas.

With the right referee, the home ground advantage, some imported talent, some dodgy decisions and the rub of the green, England can win.......










Will they?


I doubt it, they are nowhere near good enough. (except the pack, that has been the best pack in the World for 10 years without any success)
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Quote: Jonesy "With the right referee... some dodgy decisions '"

Unfortunately, with Australia in the tournament, neither of these two are likely to happen

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We have improved in some areas, but the Oz and NZ squads are stronger therefore i doubt it.

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We won't win it, but if we can keep every game close and win against one of NZ/Aus, it will be progress.

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Quote: FearTheVee "We won't win it, but if we can keep every game close and win against one of NZ/Aus, it will be progress.'"

I agree. We have our best squad out for a while i think, but Australia and NZ seem to be improving also so as long as we are competitive i will be happy.

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if we play NZ in the final then yes we can win it....

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Quote: roughyedspud "if we play NZ in the final then yes we can win it....'"

If we get to the final it will be a real big ask beating either. Nz are far improved team who are fitter and more disciplined than ever before. The athletic freaks they have brought through now have the guidance and leadership of the likes of Fien, Foran, Marhall and Johnson. We may have done well agaist them over here in the past, but now it is a totally different score with them.

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lol since when did nathan fien become a world beater?

foran,if he plays at all, is likely to be shoved in to the ...cos like australia NZ have injuries in the 3/4's too....

johnson,while a great looking talent....he only made his 1st grade debut in june....so to already pin him up there is ridiculous

and i'll grant you benji though.....

look...the kiwis don't travel well...never have...plus a 1/4 of the squad have never played test RL before....nothing about this kiwis squad is telling me they are going to reverse their absolute dire record up here....but as is the way with the jakyall & hyde kiwis...they'll probably beat the aussies........and lose to us in hull

and don't get me started on the aussie squad

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Quote: roughyedspud "lol since when did nathan fien become a world beater?

foran,if he plays at all, is likely to be shoved in to the centres...cos like australia NZ have injuries in the 3/4's too....

johnson,while a great looking talent....he only made his 1st grade debut in june....so to already pin him up there is ridiculous

and i'll grant you benji though.....

look...the kiwis don't travel well...never have...plus a 1/4 of the squad have never played test RL before....nothing about this kiwis squad is telling me they are going to reverse their absolute dire record up here....but as is the way with the jakyall & hyde kiwis...they'll probably beat the aussies........and lose to us in hull

and don't get me started on the aussie squad'"

I think you underestimate Fiens influence on this team. Whether he plays at 9 or 7 he guides the team around the park brilliantly and has been the glue that holds everything together for NZ. In the past when NZ have had injuries to either Jones or Marshall they have really struggled to find a replacement. Now they have Fien plus 2 top young halves in Foran and Johnson. You keep going on about how well we have done against them over here in the past, but this is a different team, that look to have a better attiude and outlook. England have a better and improved squad but so do the other 2.

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