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| Quote: Starbug "Lots of teams would beat Skolars,Gateshead,Skorpions by massive score lines , the gap between those three and the rest of Championship 1 is huge
Even so , your point is what ?'"
My point is that a lot of the U20's league is probably at a similar standard to Championship 1 if not both Championships |
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| Quote: justarugbyfan "My point is that a lot of the U20's league is probably at a similar standard to Championship 1 if not both Championships'"
And my point is you are probably wrong
And even if you are right , what do you suggest should happen ?
Feeder clubs ? |
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| Quote: Chris Dalton "Feeder teams have no independence. They have no drive. They are there for the benefit of the club they are feeding and for that reason alone. This being considered how are they going to be in charge of whether they get promoted? What if their parent club doesn't let them? What kind of state is their academy going to be in one the parent team takes all their best youngsters and they do get promoted?
If we're actually talking about feeder teams and not good relationships between clubs, you can't talk about promotion and youth setups, they are at the mercy of someone else. As for how a club will not be worth following, how much motivation do you think fans are going to get following a team whose purpose is merely to get players ready for a different, higher club? One, they might as well follow that club. Two, that club is going to tinker with your team against the best needs of your club. They will insist you throw players in to make them ready, insist players get match fitness by playing for you, even if you don't need them. Your club is merely there for their purposes. That is not worth watching from a fans perspective.
We support teams which represent something like our communities, we want them to improve their lot, taking promotion away was bad enough. Taking away their independence, that's another nail in their coffin.
Now that's not to say a team couldn't do a deal with another which guaranteed to give their youngsters experience before they are ready for super league or even discounted ticketing schemes for season ticket holders of both clubs or whatever. But the emphasis must be on equal rights and to the benefit of both clubs and so both clubs must be independent.'" There seems to be an awful lot of supposition in here which focuses on the negative possibilities.
I cant see why giving access to high quality young players, full-time SL coaches, sports scientists, physios, nutrionists etc removes independence. |
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kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "There seems to be an awful lot of supposition in here which focuses on the negative possibilities.
I cant see why giving access to high quality young players, full-time SL coaches, sports scientists, physios, nutrionists etc removes independence.'"
Then you are stupid |
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| Quote: justarugbyfan "At the start of the season, Wigan U20's beat London Skolars by a massive scoreline. The U20's comp is probably a better standard than the Championship 1'"
we've hammed plenty SL reserve sides in preseason |
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| Quote: Starbug "Then you are stupid'"
or just not as caught up in parochial nonsense as you are. |
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "There seems to be an awful lot of supposition in here which focuses on the negative possibilities.
I cant see why giving access to high quality young players, full-time SL coaches, sports scientists, physios, nutrionists etc removes independence.'"
That's not surprising. You are after all colossally stupid. |
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kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "or just not as caught up in parochial nonsense as you are.'"
Well it's one or the other , I suppose we'll have to let people make up their own minds on that one |
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| Quote: justarugbyfan "My point is that a lot of the U20's league is probably at a similar standard to Championship 1 if not both Championships'"
Disagree with you on this one mate. I reckon if you stuck an U20s Wigan team in C1, the cream would rise (one or two players) Get promoted to the 1st team and then the rest would get mullered.
Also, no one would watch it and then the Championships clubs fate would truly be sealed. |
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
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| Quote: Chris Dalton "That's not surprising. You are after all colossally stupid.'"
No, no you're right, your chicken licken impression is obviously the intelligent way to go. |
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kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "No, no you're right, your chicken licken impression is obviously the intelligent way to go.'"
As I said , people will make up their own minds |
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| Quote: Starbug "And my point is you are probably wrong
And even if you are right , what do you suggest should happen ?
Feeder clubs ?'"
Why am I wrong?
The U20's are often coached the same tactics and methods of their SL team so the games are often faster than the Championships.
If Wigan U20's can be picked for Widnes when on duel-reg, surely that shows that they must be at a similar standard.
I don't think feeder clubs should be made from the Championships side - if we want to grow as a sport we need strong divisions at all levels.
Maybe an affiliation between clubs would be good though like is done in football. Wigan could loan players to Leigh and Wigan could have some benefits in regards to signing players. Benefits both parties. |
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "No, no you're right, your chicken licken impression is obviously the intelligent way to go.'"
Why don't you do an impression of Lord Lucan? |
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| Quote: jonny the leyther "Disagree with you on this one mate. I reckon if you stuck an U20s Wigan team in C1, the cream would rise (one or two players) Get promoted to the 1st team and then the rest would get mullered.
Also, no one would watch it and then the Championships clubs fate would truly be sealed.'"
Clubs like Wigan and Warrington only get a few close games a season in the 20's league. At least playing in C1 they would get a bit of competition.
If Sam Powell and Logan Tomkins can get playing for Championship teams in duel-reg, I'm sure Wigan could succeed in Championship 1. |
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
[quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]: |
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| Quote: Chris Dalton "Why don't you do an impression of Lord Lucan?'"
Kill a nanny?
Will you blame the RFL for that aswell? |
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