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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: HatedAndAdored "Ok so investing millions into the infrastructure of the club, the stadium, the youth and community set up to create sustainable business suitable for a super league franchise isn't hard work... You're right, shame on Widnes for all the 'hard graft' in producing a club that met the criteria set before them over the last three years..'"


Not to mention making million pound profits at the same time

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Maybe we should have cheated the cap like others so we could be more competitive.

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: Chris Dalton "Maybe we should have cheated the cap like others so we could be more competitive.'"


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Quote: HatedAndAdored "Ok so investing millions into the infrastructure of the club, the stadium, the youth and community set up to create sustainable business suitable for a super league franchise isn't hard work... You're right, shame on Widnes for all the 'hard graft' in producing a club that met the criteria set before them over the last three years..'"


Of course it isn't. What you should be doing is scraping by round the bottom of the table, almost going out of business and getting a new licence by the skin of your teeth because another club got told to withdraw their application because they weren't going to get anywhere with it. icon_mrgreen.gif

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Widnes unwelcome in SL. Yeah, that'll be right. Looking forward to seeing you guys next season.

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I'm glad they're back in Super League. Their application was no doubt streets ahead of the others.

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: Poyser11 "I'm glad they're back in Super League. Their application was no doubt streets ahead of the others.'"


Oh I don't know , when you finally get into the new stadium and don't have to borrow the Stobart , you should be on a par with them

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I think that some (especially Widnes) fans miss the gist of my opening post. The title was asking a question rather than straight out saying that Widnes Vikings aren’t welcome. Plus I also wished the Widnes fans all the best for super league.

All this thread is doing is questioning a few things. Looks like I’ve got off to a bad start with a few people so let’s build bridges from hereon in. Some interesting points have been made and that’s what forums are for. Certainly not the slag fest that I’ve received!

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Quote: Damo-Leeds "I think that some (especially Widnes) fans miss the gist of my opening post. The title was asking a question rather than straight out saying that Widnes Vikings aren’t welcome. Plus I also wished the Widnes fans all the best for super league.

All this thread is doing is questioning a few things. Looks like I’ve got off to a bad start with a few people so let’s build bridges from hereon in. Some interesting points have been made and that’s what forums are for. Certainly not the slag fest that I’ve received!'"


It was a nonsense question designed to provoke anger rather than thought.

So I reiterate. Shut up you tart!

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Quote: littlerich "Possibly not Jonny. There's a £300k cap - what could O'Connor's millions have done with that?'"


Millions, Cap or not Rich, SOC would have invested 300k in 1st team alone if the criteria was promotion and relegation (Which it should be in my book) but as you said he has run 5 teams since 2008 application and done everything the RFL have asked and that includes the famous "ticking of the box" in our NR Cup win at the 1st possible chance of doing so. I personally think if Leigh have true asperations of SL next time around they will also follow WV lead and allow a dip in 1st team form to compensate fulfilling other criteria in Academys/U15s/U16s/off field criteria. Halifax need to re tick that box (ie win something) and then get there youth set ups going again. IMO 300k wont run a totally succesful club as in a all winning 1st team AND youth etc

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Quote: asterix "Millions, Cap or not Rich, SOC would have invested 300k in 1st team alone if the criteria was promotion and relegation (Which it should be in my book) but as you said he has run 5 teams since 2008 application and done everything the RFL have asked and that includes the famous "ticking of the box" in our NR Cup win at the 1st possible chance of doing so. I personally think if Leigh have true asperations of SL next time around they will also follow WV lead and allow a dip in 1st team form to compensate fulfilling other criteria in Academys/U15s/U16s/off field criteria. Halifax need to re tick that box (ie win something) and then get there youth set ups going again. IMO 300k wont run a totally succesful club as in a all winning 1st team AND youth etc'"


I don't think you understand the way the Salary Cap works , it is 1 st team relevant only , Widnes will have spent up to the max for the last 2/3 years , just as other clubs have , unfortunatley poor recruitment , both in players and coaching staff has resulted in a couple if poor seasons , it happens , because of the licencing system it doesn't matter , you are the best Championship ' Club ' , and are the only club in the Championships that is anywhere near strong enough to move up to SL

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Quote: Chris Dalton "It was a nonsense question designed to provoke anger rather than thought.

So I reiterate. Shut up you tart!'"

icon_lol.gif I agree,I think Damo was looking for it big time.

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Anyway I am made up Widnes are back in SL,cracking club with good fans,I also shout for them as they have always been my second team due to their excellent team of the 80's.

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Quote: Chris Dalton "It was a nonsense question designed to provoke anger rather than thought.

So I reiterate. Shut up you tart!'"


I refuse to be silenced until I can clear my name and my innocence. At this rate it won’t be Guy Fawkes on the fires of Widnes come the fifth of November – It’ll be me. I’m just totally baffled by the uncalled for responses that have occurred on this thread towards myself.

You’ve twisted everything that I’ve said and for that you owe me an apology. I doubt one will be forthcoming though. But from the bottom of my heart I'm sorry to anyone who was offended by the questions put forward in this thread. Maybe I just went the wrong way about it.

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Quote: Damo-Leeds "I just went the wrong way about it.'"


Your life, in a quote icon_biggrin.gif

Chin up Damo

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