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| Quote: Paul HHZ "Of course it's vague.
There's no detail as to why marketing, media & commercial plans were insufficient, or why the business plan was inadequate. They're pretty much general negative statements that could be applied to any club they wanted to keep out.'"
These are the public summaries.
The full reports to each club were highly detailed and specific.
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1030.gif [quote="littlerich":1czuya0c]Widnes will be glad to get away from Leigh. They've been regularly pumped, roasted and left in the alley-way by the lobbygobblers. Talk about being bitched - what a torrid time they've had. They'll be looking for some A&E rest time for the next three years at least.[/quote:1czuya0c]:1030.gif |
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| Quote: Andy Gilder "You do understand the concept of a summary, don't you?
Bear in mind your own club was part of the decision to keep the RFLs full feedback "commercial in confidence" and therefore keep it out of the public arena.'"
I am aware of a summary yes. You are aware that I wasn't calling for the full detail aren't you? I was merely responding to EHW about [i'shutting up the 'Fax fans.'[/i The summary tells us very little.
You are also aware that my own club was not [i 'part of the decision to keep the RFLs full feedback "commercial in confidence" and therefore keep it out of the public arena'[/i, are you not?
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1030.gif [quote="littlerich":1czuya0c]Widnes will be glad to get away from Leigh. They've been regularly pumped, roasted and left in the alley-way by the lobbygobblers. Talk about being bitched - what a torrid time they've had. They'll be looking for some A&E rest time for the next three years at least.[/quote:1czuya0c]:1030.gif |
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| Quote: dboy "These are the public summaries.
The full reports to each club were highly detailed and specific.'"
I'm sure they were.
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| Did KPMG study Celtic Crusaders bid the last time round? Did they study Wakefields? Both went bust during the license period. Their bids may have been presented nicely but they were obviously flawed because they we both financially knackered.
The Halifax club should hopefully be in possession of a more detailed feedback from the RFL so that they can put in a "proper" bid next time or decide that it's unable to put in such a bid and withdraw from the process.
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
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| Halifax = Shafted
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| Quote: Starbug "Halifax
Not really. You have to be able to demonstrate that you can offer more than a current club. I don't think that happened. As you will agree, we need a backer and a substantial increase in attendances.
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| Surprised that the RFL didn't advise Halifax to
withdraw their bid if it was as bad as it is suggested. Why keep them in the process if they had it since Christmas?
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46042.jpg [quote="Bonzo":23qz4bj5]Corrected.
Incidentally, an exclamation mark ends a sentence and does not require a full stop. The first letter of the next word begins a new sentence and should therefore be capitalised. [i:23qz4bj5]Who needs flankers[/i:23qz4bj5]' grammar was actually correct.
HTH.
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| The Castleford summary reads along the same lines as Bradford and Hull KR so are Cas a C+ and Bradford and Hull KR a B-?
No real shocks. They all seem reasonable. Would have liked to see the Crusaders one though.
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NRL expansion? Sometime soon, maybe......:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_9857.jpg |
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| QuinsThe club faces a number of challenges, including location and brand but is developing detailed plans to meet these challenges and grow attendances, profile and revenues[/i
So they haven't got plans in palce, they are still developing them? Well that inspires confidence! Where they judged on the plans that will be developed one day but not quite ready yet?
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| Quote: JB Down Under "Where they judged on the plans that will be developed one day but not quite ready yet?'"
No, because as the RFL point out, that would be "speculative" and unacceptable
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Black Backgrounds/Zoot.gif Freedom for supporters of the government, only for members of one party - however numerous they may be - is no freedom at all. freedom is always and exclusively for one who thinks differently.
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| Just looking at the 'C' grade licences (as they're the ones in danger next time out, or earlier IF you believe what's been reportedly said)
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| What I don’t understand is why Halifax didn’t contract somebody to write a decent submission for them. They have the appropriate facilities, playing strength and community programmes, surely these are the elements that take time to develop and yet the business plan and commercial element which would require some decent forecasting and budget work is a professional skill that can be bought into the organisation. If KPMG are doing the assessment, why didn’t Halifax bring Deloitte or PWC in to write the submission – surely a minimum of 3 years of Super league revenue would be worth the investment
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| Quote: The Chronicler of Chiswic "Halifax have already been torn to pieces earlier in this thread so I'll say no more [sizeother than when did your chairman think the RFL were born?[/size'"
Not sure but Leighton Samuels and Ted Richardson knew they [iwere[/i born yesterday in 2009.
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| Quote: Dunbar "What I don’t understand is why Halifax didn’t contract somebody to write a decent submission for them. They have the appropriate facilities, playing strength and community programmes, surely these are the elements that take time to develop and yet the business plan and commercial element which would require some decent forecasting and budget work is a professional skill that can be bought into the organisation. If KPMG are doing the assessment, why didn’t Halifax bring Deloitte or PWC in to write the submission – surely a minimum of 3 years of Super league revenue would be worth the investment'"
A lesson to be learnt there for sure. Forget the helicopter - get the basics right.
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| Halifax had plenty of warning their bid needed work when they got knocked back in favour of Widnes. At that point they should have indeed got a 3rd party in to review their presentation.
In terms of process, letting Halifax in was too soon for Fax IMO
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