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I agree with Code, look at players like Sinfield who IMO and from what i saw through a few games has carried Leeds' offence by himself.

O Loughlin doesnt appear to do much when ive had the chance to see him on Sky.

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1 Tomkins
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9 Roby (M Monaghan isn't far behind the likes of Roby, Tomkins and Chase for MoS though)
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I can't understand why anyone would not select Rangi Chase

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Roby vs Monaghan will split opinion. Two of the top performers in the league.

I'd like to put forward Francis Meli. A real threat for Saints setting up a lot of tries for foster with good running and slick hands.

Carvell is another one that's been in cracking form whenever I've seen him.

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Quote: Offside Monkey "Roby vs Monaghan will split opinion. Two of the top performers in the league.

I'd like to put forward Francis Meli. A real threat for Saints setting up a lot of tries for foster with good running and slick hands.

Carvell is another one that's been in cracking form whenever I've seen him.'"


Andy Wilson of the Guardian made that point too, difficult to see who he'd displace though. For me it'd be -

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1. Sam Tomkins
2. Tom Briscoe
3. Kirk Yeaman
4. George Carmont
5. Matt King
6. Rangi Chase
7. Scott Dureau
8. James Graham
9. James Roby
10. Andy Lynch
11. Willie Manu
12. Ben Westwood
13. Sean O'Loughlin

Just missing out: Tommy L, M & J Monaghan, Charnley, Hoffman, Paletua & Jarrod Hickey

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Quote: Guerrier "Andy Wilson of the Guardian made that point too, difficult to see who he'd displace though.'"

Well, everyone has their opinions icon_wink.gif
What is important for me is that people consider this year's form only, rather than a player's reputation as a whole.

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[quote="Bonzo":23qz4bj5]Corrected. Incidentally, an exclamation mark ends a sentence and does not require a full stop. The first letter of the next word begins a new sentence and should therefore be capitalised. [i:23qz4bj5]Who needs flankers[/i:23qz4bj5]' grammar was actually correct. HTH. :BEAT:[/quote:23qz4bj5]:46042.jpg



Quote: Cupid Stunt "1. Sam Tomkins
2. Tom Briscoe
3. Kirk Yeaman
4. George Carmont
5. Matt King
6. Rangi Chase
7. Scott Dureau
8. James Graham
9. James Roby
10. Lee Mossop
11. Ryan Hoffman
12. Ben Westwood
13. Sean O'Loughlin

Struggled with Centres and Props.'"


Centres are a problem. Cudjoe or put King to Centre and then Monaghan on the wing.
Fitzy or beaver at LF. Both have been awesome.
It's a shame Huby got injured. Him and Graham were the best 2 props in the league up to easter.

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I don't understand how English players in the SL Dream Team wouldn't be a shoe-in for the England side? Yet there are people that have been selected by many (Kirk Yeaman and Andy Lynch) that most likely will not get selected.

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Quote: who needs flankers? "Centres are a problem. Cudjoe or put King to Centre and then Monaghan on the wing'"

I thought the point of the Dream Team was to select the best 13 from the competition based on the position they have played rather than just the ‘best team’. I thought that King had played most of the year on the wing so can’t really move him to centre for a Dream Team spot

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Quote: Dunbar "I thought the point of the Dream Team was to select the best 13 from the competition based on the position they have played rather than just the ‘best team’. I thought that King had played most of the year on the wing so can’t really move him to centre for a Dream Team spot'"


Yea you are right. Just seems we have more decent wingers than centres and as King played most of his career to date in the centre it didn't seem like bending the rules that much.

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Quote: Wellsy13 "I don't understand how English players in the SL Dream Team wouldn't be a shoe-in for the England side? Yet there are people that have been selected by many (Kirk Yeaman and Andy Lynch) that most likely will not get selected.'"

I can.
Welham would be a good example. Had fantastic form for the season in SL, scoring and creating lots, but playing in SL is not like playing the Aussies. Perhaps the international selection would be better going to a less spectacular, but safer player.

I've played with plenty of players who look the bees knees ripping it up against the bottom half of the league, but aren't worth a when they're up against it.

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Quote: Offside Monkey "I can.
Welham would be a good example. Had fantastic form for the season in SL, scoring and creating lots, but playing in SL is not like playing the Aussies. Perhaps the international selection would be better going to a less spectacular, but safer player.

I've played with plenty of players who look the bees knees ripping it up against the bottom half of the league, but aren't worth a when they're up against it.'"

I think it is quite the opposite and Wellens is a perfect example – a player can be great week in week out in the Super League but doesn’t have that extra level that you need in International football. With Wellens, it was a lack of pace that the Aussies and Kiwi’s exploited – usually with his kick returns

We don’t need safe in international football, we need match winners

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