What's that bit all about?

no excuses here. will be going to warrington and leigh, and would love to hit the double header but i see almost half my current client base on friday evennings and saturday/sunday mornings. taking a weekend off is not an option.

You mean two shock victories out of 11 fixtures ?


New Zealand have won 3 of the last 17 fixtures with average points difference between the sides is greater than 17. This is not what is classed as competitive, NZ can cause a shock and each of their victories in that period have been a shock but classing those fixtures as 'most cpetitive sport on the planet' is just plain delusional.




Not one of those players have performed well in the tri-nations. Even Tomkins got demoted to full back by his club boss because he was out of his depth at half back.

International RL is definitely not a joke, maybe not supported well by players and fans but certainly not a joke and in a better situation than it has ever been.

That bit has to be a joke surely? He didn't get demoted, and has proved that he is a damn fine fullback, a position which I couldn't think of anyone particularly International standard.

I expect i'll go to most of the games, Cant make it on the 5th due to my nephews 1st birthday....the inconsiderate devil, he has been told!!

I go to see the best palyers and so I can say 'I was there' when we win a competition!!

Two shock victories that mean that New Zealand hold both of the international trophies on offer – I’m sure Australia would swap quite a few of those 11 fixtures to win the trophies on offer, I thought the Aussies had a winning mentality?



I see you have misquoted me quite neatly there – I said ‘among the most competitive’ not ‘the most competitive’ – there is a big difference between those two statements. Anyway, are you denying that the Kiwi vs. Kangaroo games are not competitive sport? I bet the players of both sides class it as competitive after 80 minutes



I agree – that’s why I’m talking about being optimistic about the future rather... i.e. it is in the future not the past



If you are agreeing with the point of my post, why did you argue with so much of it?

What a shock.


I presume you are saying stuff that.

I'm going to wembley, not to support England but to watch the likes of slater, benji, Foran, cameron smith, inglis, thurston, Lockyer etc.

Everytime I see Mcnamara on tv say England can win the 4 nations I witness a guy who doesnt actually believe that himself. It's a joke that England are coached by this guy!!



You have a point but at the same time NZ have won the 'big games' and like it or not they are very very significant.

When both sides are on there game we do really see a great game. NZ v Australia 20 - 20 at the stoop in 2009 is the best international RL game I have seen. The intensity and skill level in that game was immense.

I paid for tickets to Wembley some time ago.

It will be my last England international.

Why MattyB.

It's not because of the treatment Sam got at Leeds in the exile game is it.

Not going myself, dont get any buzz over cheering the players you call every week and sitting with the fans you call every week.

It's played a small part in it. However I think this Home Nations format is killing the game. I actually preferred the time we were GB, and the Kangaroo tours that went with it, so much so that I went to Hilton Park, Knowsley Road, Central Park to support the home teams against the Aussies in 1982. Something that sadly is now lost forever.

RL = GB
RU = England.