Heightington? Have i missed something here?

He's declared himself for england a couple of times now, get him in the side. I also missed luke burgess out of my side, get him in over carvell!

Why are people using this thread to cream themselves over how good the Australians are? I wouldn’t mind fawning to them if they were the World Cup or 4 Nations champions but they are neither

Why? Carvell has proved himself a better prop than Burgess over the past 4 or 5 seasons and is leading the Wire pack forward this year while Burgess didn’t exactly set the game alight for most of his Leeds career. I like Burgess but I cannot see why he would be in ahead of Carvell and I can only assume you would put him there is because of the competition he plays in and not the quality of his game

Good call Dunbar-2 months ago Burgess couldnt get into a poor Leeds team now he is in Sydney he is top draw

2 years ago Quins didnt take the option to sign him post his loan as he was deemed to slow- and thats Quins!

Faster than Wellens so maybe they should have played him at FB.

I would prefer:

1. Sam Tomkins
2. Josh Charnley
3. Michael Shenton
4. Chris Bridge
5. Ryan Hall
6. Gareth Widdop
7. Danny Brough
8. James Graham
9. James Roby
10. Eorl Crabtree
11. Gareth Hock
12. Ben Westwood
13. Sean O'Loughlin

14. Joel Tomkins
15. Gareth Carvell
16. Lee Mossop
17. Luke Robinson

No Place for Peacock any more in my book unfortunately, too old. Joel on the bench gives us injury cover for the backs as well as a rotation for the 2nd row. Hock can be pushed into the front row if necessary. Westwood should be back for the 4 nations. Crabtree has been coached well in a good side all season and has looked good for England in the past.

No Briscoe?

Briscoe and Hall should be the wingers for me.

Charnley should be included in the England set up as a portable turnstile for each stadium to use as they wish.

At least he'll have a nice time in London.

1 Sam Tomkins
2 Ryan Hall
3 Chris Bridge
4 Kirk Yeaman
5 Tom Briscoe
6 Gareth Widdop
7 Danny Brough

8 James Graham
9 James Roby
10 Jamie Peacock
11 Ben Westwood
12 Joel Tomkins
13 Sean O'Loughlin

14 Luke Robinson
15 Joe Westerman
16 Lee Mossop
17 Garreth Carvell

I would worry that after a season in the centres, J Tomkins wouldn’t have the size or current style of game to compete internationally in the pack. Added to that, I think Westerman is a little lightweight for international football

That pack would look a fair bit stronger with Sam Burgess and Gareth Ellis available wouldn’t it – you could interchange those two with Westwood in the second row and Mossop, Carvell, Graham and Peacock in the front row

Without Ellis and Burgess, I would add Ben Harrison for some size in the back row

How big does Joel Tomkins have to be?!

if he opted to play for England, he'd still be eligible for origin though right? i'm thinking back to Adrian Lam