Belle Vue home of Rhyl FC could be a decent shout or Farrar Road in Bangor could be another option. Rhyl has to be a prefered option due to being nearer to Wrexham and the border so away fans would not be discouraged from travelling as well as far better facilities.

That is a long way off though and seeing out the season has to be priority and hopefully the Racecourse will still be a long term option if Wrexham FC change hands.

I'm not one to jump on the 'anti-RFL' bandwagon, but they've cocked the whole Crusaders thing up in big style.

The move to SL was at least 2-3 years too early. They were building well in South Wales, crowds were small but growing and they had achieved moderate success on the field. There was some ground wandering but options were available - there's hardly a shortage of rugby grounds in the area. Further, South Wales is a sea of oval ball talent - thousands upon thousands of lads who've played with rugby balls since they could walk. The club was laying down foundations and a presence in Wales and beginning to become a strong entity.

I can almost picture Wood and Lewis giddy with excitement when Crusaders applied for SL. "YES! SL in Wales! My position is vindicated!" I was baffled then, and remain baffled, as to how they didn't see it was too early.

Regardless of shady motives behind selling the land in Wrexham, etc, the RFL got a lot to answer for and I think it's a crying shame. A strong club in Wales would be fantastic, and with Welsh blood coming through could have eventually been a real contender.

Fingers crossed South Wales Scorpions will see this as an opportunity for growth and take over where Crusaders left off in 2008.

1. They were building well on the back of some on-field success, but we now all know how that was achieved! Hopefully, the Scorpions have picked up the benefits though.

2. Like you say, I'm sure the RFL were 'giddy with excitement' at the prospect of a Super League team in Wales. And I'm sure the owner's (alleged) threat to pull out if they didn't get a licence helped focus their minds. What's that expression about lying down with dogs?!

Incidentally, options 1 and 4 of the poll are basically the same thing.

Rhyl is not a bad ground but the pitch seems small for RL and is no where near super league standard. Farrar road is about to be knocked down and bangor are moving into a 2,000 cap ground. Again no good for Super League. of course you have to think of the future. Cefn druids are in a new ground but its a little out of the way and of course no where near super league standard.

Never mind the ground IN Rhyl not being up to scratch, Rhyl itself is not upto scratch i doubt many fans of championship/championship one teams relish the prospect of having to travel via a Stargate to reach their away games against the third incarnation of Crusaders

I think stability and getting a team in Championship One or Conference has to be the aim and not even think about SL for now. I am not sure what facilities are like at Wrexham RU club but that could be another short term option though a merger with Scorpions and Championship rugby next year could be the RFL's prefered option but a real kick in the nuts for those supporters in the North.

I'd like to see a resurrected Wrexham side but there is no value in the "Crusaders" moniker. I should be scrapped and never used again by any Welsh side.

Indeed you should if you think RL should be resurrected in Wrexham.

Would you like to explain this, Barry? Please, go right ahead! I'll await your response with baited breath.

Ooops, a tiny typo there.

I'd like to see a representative of every major town / city in Britain in the professional pyramid. Wrexham are a medium sized town so I'd like them to have a team. I don't think it will happen though.

See what I mean , we are told be happy to be a Championship club , then as soon as an expansion club is discussed , SL ,SL SL

I really hope that when Dickie & Nige come knocking on the doors of the Championship leagues clubs and say that they would like to admit Crusaders then I hope the chairmen of those clubs stand firm and say no chance, we're refusing to play in any league with them in it.

As much as I understand the injustice and anger felt towards the way things have turned out Derwent , we need more clubs , and if a club can be reborn from this fiasco , with guarantees there will not be any excessive attempts to push them forward until they can support themselves , then I'd welcome them into the Championships

I'd even consider letting the RFL give them extra funding for a set period as long as that was tied into a no promotion clause and was all out in the open

Why no promotion clause? You dont think the RFL will be pushing this again in 3 years time do you

Would such guarantees be worth the paper they're written on though ?

Let me make it clear, my problem isn't with the club themselves it is with the RFL who have orchestrated this whole shoddy affair and now are looking to the clubs that they allowed Celtic to trample all over in the first place to be their saviours and salvage something out of it to save face.

Effectively they would be asking Championship clubs to allow Crusaders in to be 'on hold' for another stab at SL, because we all know that as soon as practically possible the RFL would be manouvring them in that direction again. Any Championship club with ambition of their own would be mad to agree to it unless they had cast iron guarantees and an option to sue if favouritism is shown at any time in the future.