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Quote: Gronk! "Well done a whole THREE more players than the overseas.'"


Oh sorry, you can add Crosby and Jack Hughes and Ryan King to that list aswell, so thats 6 more.

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Quote: Gronk! "Well done a whole THREE more players than the overseas.'"



Just to muddy the waters a little more for you, Hansen came through our academy too.

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Quote: Gronk! "Non-fed quota etc or not isn't the point of this thread, the point is Wigan have 9 non-British players and this is from a team that boasts about the junior development and the fact people have had a go at other teams for the number of overseas players.

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And the fact remains we have brought through more youngsters than any other club, also look at other clubs for lads that came through our system, Brown, Robinson at Hudds are 2 straight off the top of my head.................SL is full of Wigan lads and people that have come through our system.

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You'd think with Wigan breaking the number of Overseas players allowed Rules that someone, anyone, would have spotted it?

What's that you say? They're not Breaking any rules? What about the "Spirit" of the Rules then? There must be something we can get them with! icon_rolleyes.gif

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Why do people keep putting Harrison Hansen on the list? It's not like we've found some hidden grandparent so we can get him off quota, he's been with the club since his mid-teens and if he really wanted to qualifies outright to play for England. There's no point at all having him on the list.

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



Quote: Toulouse for super L "Hull Kr, Crusaders and Catalans have all been criticised for having too many overseas players in their squad, yet I have not seen any critisim of Wigan, the sky team endlessly go on about their amazing youth development whenever they are on sky, yet the realitiy is Wigan have more overseas players than the vast majority of clubs. How on earth have they been allowed to add Ben Cross to their list?

George Carmont
Amos Roberts
Pat Richards
Brett Finch
Thomas Leuluai
Harrison Hansen
Ryan Hoffman
Jeff Lima
Ben Cross'"


Hansen was trained by the club so he doesn't count. He just qualifies to play for Samoa through his mum and dad I think. He was brought through our system.
Leuluai has been in this country since before the age of 21, its not like we poached him from the NRL.
Richards is Irish icon_wink.gif

Roberts, Carmont, Hoffman and Cross could leave at the end of the year.

Not exactly of concern though really when we have....

S Tomkins
Goulding
McIlorum
Hansen
J Tomkins
Lockers
Prescott
O'Carroll
Mossop
Farrell
Tuson
Marsh
Charnley
Hock

All playing for the first team and all through the Wigan youth system. Along with Deacon who is a Wigan lad icon_wink.gif

Then we have... L Tomkins, Mellor, Crosby, Hughes and Davies doing time at other super league clubs and championship clubs on dual registration.

We also have one of the most succesful academy teams over the last few years and the most succesful reserve team as well.

Finally the young England side to take on the aussies last year at LSV had more players from Wigan than any other team.

Not too shabby for a team full of overseas players icon_lol.gif JOG ON!

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Quote: Gronk! "Non-fed quota etc or not isn't the point of this thread, the point is Wigan have 9 non-British players and this is from a team that boasts about the junior development and the fact people have had a go at other teams for the number of overseas players.

Seemingly, it is for Wigan fans.'"



Well you're clearly a troll but....

I haven't checked, but I would be surprised if there is another SL team with more first team players that came through their academy than Wigan.

As for the non-british, this again some whining about how they can't play for England. The facts are Wigan have 5 non-fed players, as allowed by the rules. The other 4 are all pre-2008, of which only none of them counted anyway, as Hansen came through the Wigan Academy, Leuleuai was here for more then 2 years, under 21, so counts as 'academy trained' at London Broncos. Pat is Irish and Carmont Samoan as far as the rules are concerned, all of which is no longer relevant since the fed, non-fed rules have been brought in. Once Carmont and Richards leave don't expect them to be replaced with an aussie, but probably, yet another, Wigan academy youngster.

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



Quote: 21-12 "And the fact remains we have brought through more youngsters than any other club, also look at other clubs for lads that came through our system, Brown, Robinson at Hudds are 2 straight off the top of my head.................SL is full of Wigan lads and people that have come through our system.'"


Gilmour
Hodgeson
Brown
Robinson
Aspinwall
Briscoe
Colbon
Godwin
Wild
Hargreaves
Ainscough
Melling
Wilkes
Vievers

To name a few more just off the top of my head, I bet I have missed loads out. Thats not even including the championship as well.

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like shooting fish in a barrel icon_lol.gif

you guys are so touchy.

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Wigan sign yet another overseas player for four months on the same day Widnes announce two foreign signings for next year and Saints offer a year's contract to a 31 year old Australian.

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Quote: Jukesays "You'd think with Wigan breaking the number of Overseas players allowed Rules that someone, anyone, would have spotted it?

What's that you say? They're not Breaking any rules? What about the "Spirit" of the Rules then? There must be something we can get them with!
That is right.

With Wigan, any rule is seen as a rule for other clubs, to keep them in check. Wigan do not see themselves as having to comply with the rules and look for as many ways around them as possible. It's ties in to the lack of morality they display on the field as well.

I remember all those years ago when the cap was introduced. "Wigan are given an exemption due to existing contracts", then they went and signed Andy Farrell on a massive new contract as well as David Furner, Adrian Lam, Matthew Johns, Jamie Ainscough and Craig Smith. The club is a joke and I don't know how anyone can support them.

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Quote: Saddened! "With Wigan, any rule is seen as a rule for other clubs, to keep them in check. Wigan do not see themselves as having to comply with the rules and look for as many ways around them as possible. It's ties in to the lack of morality they display on the field as well.'"


Wigan have 8 overseas players, we'll have 7 next season. Hardly a world of difference, but both at least 2 too many.

The sooner these exemptions all expire the better.

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Quote: FearTheVee "Wigan have 84 overseas players, we'll have 7 next season. Hardly a world of difference, but both at least 2 too many.

The sooner these exemptions all expire the better.'"


Sssh.

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Quote: Saddened! "Sssh.'"


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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



Quote: FearTheVee "Wigan have 8 overseas players, we'll have 7 next season. Hardly a world of difference, but both at least 2 too many.

The sooner these exemptions all expire the better.'"


As soon as the cap goes up in aus, super league teams will have less than 3 overseas players, and the ones they do have will mostly be rejects or young players trying to prove themselves.

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