one would be at widnes but australians carry a genetic, race memory that instinctively makes the kangaroos fear playing and losing there again

Wales v England (Cardiff City)
Australia v NZ (Stoop)
England v Australia/Wales v NZ (Wembley)
England v NZ (KC)
Wales v Australia (Racecourse)
Final (Elland Road)

that'll do me....though i've heard wigan is in the shake up for the england v NZ game..that way every region,that matters, will be covered...london,wales,lancashire & yorkshire

I'd be happy with that! I'd see 4 games at least, never been to KC either so maybe even make the trip for that.

Are you saying this is what the schedule is, or this is what you think the schedule should be? Surely makes sense to have Wales v England at Wrexham as more England fans will travel

Wales v England (Racecourse)
Australia v NZ (Stoop)
England v Australia/Wales v NZ (Wembley)
England v NZ (KC)
Wales v Australia (Cardiff)
Final (Elland Road)

I'd rather not play England at the Racecourse,
We'll take New Zealand at Wrexham,
Australia in Cardiff and England at Wembley.

Prediction/What I think it should be. The England game should be in Cardiff, it would sell out. The England fans won't travel to Wrexham at all, dunno where you get that from. They can't even be bothered to watch Internationals on the M62.

Wales vs New Zealand, England vs Australia. DH @ Wembley, London.
New Zealand vs Australia, Wales vs England. DH @ Millennium Stadium, Cardiff.
Wales vs Australia @ Racecourse Ground, Wrexham.
England vs New Zealand @ KC Stadium, Hull.
Final @ City of Manchester Stadium, Manchester.

Reckon that would be a good un.

I'd agree apart from the Cardiff game in Cardiff Citys ground. Get it filled.

Now Id say this is a very educated guess (not what id want but what I think the RFL will do) seemingly knowing a few facts such as stadium availabity knowing that the football teams stated Leeds,Hull and Hudds are not at home on the dates ive put them as also other games that have already been confirmed and the fact that travel companies arround the globe are selling wembly packages for the 5th November


Internationals confirmed

Australia V New Zealand 16th Oct

France v England 21st Oct

So that leads to all money on the 4 Nations being played from the 29th October and with the travel packages Wembly will be week 2 not week 1 like the RFL said they earlier wanted.

Week 1 28/29/30 October

England V Wales (at Leigh)
New Zealand v Australia (at the Stoop)

Week 2
5th November


NZ V Wales
England v Australia


Week 3

11/12/13 Nov

England v NZ at (Huddersfield or Hull)
Wales V Australia (at Wrexham)


Week 4

Final


Elland Road

19th Novemeber








In general people might not agree with leigh in Particular but I think the RFL will want all Englands games in England and the game idealy would have been best suited at Wigan but Athletic are at home tha weekend

Leigh isnt massive and raised eyebrows last time but was it full NO

This time it will be and I think the RFL like leigh as a stadium

I'd be very disappointed if there's no game at Wigan.

We'll have to wait and see

It is a joke, I like a lot of people who work shifts need to plan months ahead, it is to late for me to arange holidays for this year now so unless I am lucky enough to be rostered off I wont be able to get to any games, They seem to think that we all live in BBC land were everyone works in an office nine to five & has every weekend off. nothing more irritating when some dork on the radio starts with its Friday afternoon & the weekend starts here when you happen to be on your way to work for a twelve hour night shift. I can except venues might be a problem but they knew twelve months ago that there was going to be the 4 Nations so should have come out then with dates.

I am hoping the NZ v Aus game might be up North given that the England v Aus game is in London, it is the best game and it would be nice for us northerners to have a better chance to see it (the one before the final i mean)

Have they officially announced dates and venues yet? It said in one of the national papers on Friday that they were going to be announced on Friday.

it not friday yet is it......