Then he shouldn't be in the job in the first place.

It's at times like this that I regret the fact rlfans banned The Glorious League Freak.

He would have said stuff on here that everybody agrees with, and had them arguing with him that no actually England are a great side, and he's just a little Aussie brat.

Whenever British international rugby league comes up I always think of the RFL at it's worse in being clueless and amateurish. As many fans have said before not enough young players coming through, British coaches that stop at championship level.
We always end up with a team with players out of position and for some reason very rarely step up from the super league standard. Super league is the RFL's be all and end all, it's as though they are working under the constraints of SKY.

I thought it was a useful game for the England team and as a concept it worked well. What was important about the game is that it was reffed very similarly to internationals – i.e. a lot of latitude at the ruck so slower play the balls and teams having to engineer breaks rather than get a ‘roll on’ – that lesson will serve us well come the 4 Nations

People are saying that Bridge and Shenton were quiet but for me that comes from the half backs not being at all dominant – Sinfield toiled hard but was ineffective and Myler showed he is a year or two away from this level (if he ever gets there)

In the 4 Nations, we should have a combination of Brough, Lomax and Widdop – at they offer something new and exciting at international level

The only one I can think of is Soliola playing on the wing in parts. Though arguably you could also say T. Leuluai.

Don't think they did but for that matter, most of the England team were in their correct positions, except for and crucially this, Sinfield. Felt sorry for him as it should have been Brown or even Briers at 6.

Just looking at the player balance

Wigan 4 England 3 Exiles - 7 players
Wire 5 England 2 Exiles - 7 players
Saints 3 England 3 Exiles - 6 players
Leeds 3 England 2 Exiles - 5 players
Hull 1 England 3 Exiles - 4 players
Hudds 1 England 2 Exiles - 3 players
Cas 1 Exile - 1 player
Wakey 1 Exile - 1 player (and brought in last minute)

I think they need to address the balance so fans of all teams can have a feeling of being involved.

No representation at all from Bradford, Hull KR, Quins, Salford,Catalans or Crusaders.

That rules out nearly 50% of fans.

Maybe have to look at how the Exiles squad is picked, without diluting it too much player quality wise

free up the weekend, have it on a saturday early evening and I will go. Couldnt go this year as couldnt get off work and have to travel up from london.

There were some very encouraging signs from certain individuals in that game. In Luke Robinson and James Roby I think we have two excellent hookers - for the first time in years. Add Brough, Widdop, Ellis and Burgess to that team and we have the makings of a good squad. Westwood was excellent and I thought Kevin Sinfield's kicking game was awesome. I'm a huge Sean O'loughlin fan, but I don't think his game is suited to the international scene or the way we currently play. Having an extra kicking option in Sinfield might be the way to go. The props need shaping up a bit. Jamie Peacock is past it now. Eorl Crabtree should be given a shot. Morley, Graham, Crabtree and Burgess would be my front row. Westwood, Ellis and Tomkins in the back row.

In the backs Sam Tomkins put in some excellent tackles close to the line. He's the best English fullback in the competition. Tom Briscoe and Ryan Hall dealt with the kicks put to them well I thought. Both will keep their places. Chris Bridge and Michael Shenton? I thought Shenton looked exposed a few times. Chris Bridge didn't do an awful lot for me, but what options do we have? Kirk Yeaman is playing well I suppose. Kris Welham is doing well, but misses a lot of tackles. Leroy Cudjoe and Michael Lawrence? It's one area we really struggle with. Centre I have no answer.

We're a team though that needs all our best players to be fit to stand a chance. Not likely to happen, but we can hope. If everyone was fit I would lineup with:

1. Sam Tomkins
2. Tom Briscoe
3. 'Anyone that can defend'
4. Chris Bridge?
5. Ryan Hall
6. Gareth Widdop
7. Danny Brough
8. Adrian Morley
9. James Roby
10. James Graham (c)
11. Gareth Ellis
12. Ben Westwood
13. Kevin Sinfield

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14. Luke Robinson
15. Sam Burgess
16. Eorl Crabtree
17. Joel Tomkins (possibly Gareth Hock?)

Macnamara is way out of his depth, but, I think we'll struggle to get a good England coach as long as it's seen as a full time job. I'm not convinced the international coach needs to be full time, what does he do day to day?
Don't know if it would work to try and get one of the better coaches working with them part time and leave macnamara full time in a more scouting and co-ordinating role, but knowing the part timer would be the man in charge when it comes to coaching and selection.

I do think they should try at least a 2 game series next year, I think it could turn out to be very popular with players and supporters.

This is ok if you're playing an exhibition game, but this game is set up as a way of the England players playing together in a competitive game.

Shenton has no pace!!!

In fact has anyone on the England team who played last night, and by that I mean pace that leaves defenders getting futher away trying to catch them?

Well, I'm pretty sure that if one of the Exiles back rowers had scored a length of the field try we would be bemoaning the lack of pace in the England side

When an England back rower goes the length of the field we still bemoan the lack of pace in the England side - kinda sums up the English RL fan mentality

so 47% of RL fans support bradford?

I think we're in for a real spanking in the 4 nations if that was anything to go by. We have no cutting edge or pace in attack to speak off and the lack of structure with the ball was alarming. If we try and play 5 drives and a kick rugby against the Aussies/NZ for 80 minutes then we might as well not bother. We're desperate need of some pace in the midfield, centres, and from full back. We weren't too bad in defense at times but it seemed that everytime the Exiles gave the ball some air England were all over the place and looked like conceding everytime.