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Quote: Odemwingie "Hock took recreational drugs which thousands of people nationwide do and they will never be banned for two years from their job. I'm not saying what he did was right, he was clearly wrong. But what exactly do you mean by the 'Hock mold'?'"


I 'exactly' mean by the 'Hock mold', that Gareth Hock took recreational drugs with no meaning or purpose other than enjoying himself illegally.

McDermott has took a prescription drug that wasn't illegal and prescribed by his doctor to aid his recovery to work in the coal industry to providefor his family.

Slight difference.

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Quote: rover49 "Yeah, great role model
yeh,he IS a great role model and knowing Brett he will use this experience to enlighten the younger generation - he has been a model RL player and given great service to his employers as well as us fans - i'm NOT a Raiders fan BTW.To compare him with the likes of Hock is ridiculous.AJ Viking is 100% correct with his post ... eusa_clap.gif
RL players at all levels risk their pro or semi-pro careers by taking the occasional recreational drug - I don't believe this is a major problem in the game in the SL & C/C1 etc but it does go on.It would be ridiculous to deny it.
Brett knows he made a mistake and he has just ended a distinguished RL career.As I said,good luck to him for the future and fellow players at all levels take note ! eusa_naughty.gif

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Quote: The Clan "The only thing about that was your linking this with Ben Johnson and then displaying a complete ignorance of the case at hand.'"


What extra info is there that you have and is not in the Sporting Life link then? That's all I have as it's all that's in the OP. Care to share your knowledge with the group?

Johnson apparently took Stanolozol

"Stanozolol, commonly sold under the name Winstrol (oral) and Winstrol Depot (intramuscular), was developed by Winthrop Laboratories in 1962. It is a synthetic anabolic steroid derived from testosterone, and has been approved by the FDA for human use." (wikipedia)

McDermott "provided a sample containing the prohibited substances drostanolone and 19-norandrosterone, which are anabolic agents"

So I'm struggling to see why you think there isn't a link. Not the same drugs but from the same family. I'll ask again, why would someone who would have known that anabolic steroids are banned take them, unless he did so by accident, in which case I apologise. But there is nothing in the report linked at the start to suggest that this is the case.

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Quote: Chris28 "What extra info is there that you have and is not in the Sporting Life link then? That's all I have as it's all that's in the OP. Care to share your knowledge with the group?

Johnson apparently took Stanolozol

"Stanozolol, commonly sold under the name Winstrol (oral) and Winstrol Depot (intramuscular), was developed by Winthrop Laboratories in 1962. It is a synthetic anabolic steroid derived from testosterone, and has been approved by the FDA for human use." (wikipedia)

McDermott "provided a sample containing the prohibited substances drostanolone and 19-norandrosterone, which are anabolic agents"

So I'm struggling to see why you think there isn't a link. Not the same drugs but from the same family. I'll ask again, why would someone who would have known that anabolic steroids are banned take them, unless he did so by accident, in which case I apologise. But there is nothing in the report linked at the start to suggest that this is the case.'"


Did you even read the thread before casting your verdict on BMs actions?

Quote: Chris28 "Ben Johnson was caught out for steroid use in 1988, when McDermott would have been 9 or so, so he would have heard the story and known about the fuss since then. So at one point in his career, and why, does he then think "Taking anabolic steroids is OK and they'll never catch me"?

Stupid'"


You make a lot of assumptions in that statement.

Placing that statement within quotation marks is a bit misleading

Maybe you should hold your water a while and wait for some facts before summarily condemning the blokes actions and his reasoning.

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Quote: The Clan "Did you even read the thread before casting your verdict on BMs actions? '"


Yep. And read the Sporting Life report too

Quote: The Clan "You make a lot of assumptions in that statement

Placing that statement within quotation marks is a bit misleading '"


I'm not claiming to know his thoughts www.nwemail.co.uk/news/my-drugs- ... th=raiders
Brett gave a typically honest interview with the local press 2 months ago when this story first broke, for anyone who wishes to get the full facts before judging him.....

www.nwemail.co.uk/news/my-drugs- ... th=raiders


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“I took some orals from the gym to speed things up. With work, I wanted to get back to fitness as soon as I could.

“I didn’t ask what was in them. I knew they were anabolic, but I didn’t ask what was in them, I just wanted to get back playing and working and this sorted us out''
i understand his wish to get back to work, im sure we all get that. being semi pro he has to be able to complete his 'real' job to support his family. that being said he obviously knew full well what he was doing.

“There are things you can take in competition and out of competition and I thought, as long as I’m clear when I’m playing, I would be fine''
With all due respect to the man thats bloody stupid. what about pre season then?

“I was never taking any performance-enhancing drugs when I was playing''
clearly not, it would be a bit obvious if you started popping pills or shooting up DURING a game. people are tested year round for good reasons. if he absolutely needed to take if for medical reasons he should have actually got it from a doctor and not some meat head juicer in a gym and declared it to the powers that be. to take it knowing it is banned, from an unofficial source and say nothing is just stupid.

“It’s a bad way to end (my career). I hope people don’t judge me on what I have done now, but rather what I have done in the past.
i certainly wont judge him a cheat. im sure we all can understand why, hes taken this stuff for 'recovery enhancement' not performance enhancement as such. but i will judge him as bloody stupid.

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Quote: Cronus "Doesn't change the fact imposing the same ban for performance enhancing drugs and recreational drugs is ridiculous......'"


Completely disagree.

Recreational drugs can easily be considered as performance enhancing: one of the differences between the 'top' sports stars and the 'also rans' is their ability to stay calm before big games and wind down afterwards. Recreational drugs taken to relax, have fun etc are clearly aiding this, and therefore performance enhancing - and if illegal deserving of a ban.

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Quote: Mr Dog "Completely disagree.

Recreational drugs can easily be considered as performance enhancing
That's one of the most tenuous arguments linking recreational drugs with performance in sport I've ever heard. I doubt very, very much, that Gaz Hock (or any other player) on a night out with his mates, does a line or two in the toilets and is thinking "well, this'll help me chill before next Friday's game and therefore play better."

People do drugs such as cocaine, Es, whizz, etc to get a high on a night out. They smoke cannabis to get a bit daft, get the giggles and chill - but to suggest cannabis is performance enhancing because it relaxes you is toooo far out maaan. And remember, they need to train all week - having your body in an induced state of relaxation, or going through recovery from the drug is hardly going to enhance your performance.

As for McDermott - a sad situation. It's not hard to understand that players are looking for as rapid a recovery as possible to get back to work and earn their bread. Once you get past your 30s recovery takes a bit longer...and a bit longer...and a bit longer. But that said he knew he was popping something dodgy and has admitted his mistake.

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