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| Quote: nick hkr "I think he adds no more or no less than a younger player in Kris Welham. Welham has scored at will also, he has similar defensive frailties but has improved season on season which could bode well for future years. I think Welham is faster and has great ability catching high balls. His age will keep him ahead of Yeaman due to the building of a strong future squad rather than relying on older players to keep going on past their best.
I am not saying Welham deserves to be in the England team I am just saying he has similar abilities and will hopefully be around longer than Kirk. FWIW I do think this season Welham has been outstanding and deserves to show the England set up what he can do against the Exciles but then as a Rovers fan I would say that!'"
He would be an even bigger turnstile than he already is vs. the Aussies, needs more time to build his defence.
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| Not skillful enough to be a top class centre and too small to be a quality S/R
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| Welham seems a mixed bag for me. Sometime he looks good, sometime he makes me wonder if he's lacking. Obviously I don't see that much of him, though.
For me (a Saints supporter), Bridge is the best english centre, followed by Shenton. Gleeson - I'm a big fan of, but he brings other issues with him.
After those three, I wouldn't touch Atkins with a barge pole - his tendancy to let his opposite run past him before he deceides to tackle them has turned up too many times when I've seen him play.
Senior - Leeds fans say he's really starting to look past it.
So I'd say Yeaman is in with a good chance if he continues his current form, especially if one of Bridge or Shents gets and injury. He's always seems solid defensively and is a threat in attack. I'd like to have him at centre for Saints.
Who else will be in the running? Arundle? Cudjoe? Watkins? Ratchford? J Tomkins even?
At Saints, I hope that Gary Wheeler will turn into an excellent centre. He has a lot of skills and is a dangerous runner. He's generally a good defender, although he fell off a bad tackle against the crusaders t'other week. Unfortunatley, he's had yet another injury set back.
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| Yeaman is in his best form since 06 when he had his awesome season! He doesn't seem to be jumping out of the line for the big tackle so much, making him much more solid defensively, and he looks to be putting him winger away far more than he ever used to.
I would say that Shenton and Bridge are better players, but Yeamans understanding with Briscoe and the others being right centres with him on the left give him a good shout at International honours this season.
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| Quote: nick hkr "I think he adds no more or no less than a younger player in Kris Welham. Welham has scored at will also, he has similar defensive frailties but has improved season on season which could bode well for future years. I think Welham is faster and has great ability catching high balls. His age will keep him ahead of Yeaman due to the building of a strong future squad rather than relying on older players to keep going on past their best.
I am not saying Welham deserves to be in the England team I am just saying he has similar abilities and will hopefully be around longer than Kirk. FWIW I do think this season Welham has been outstanding and deserves to show the England set up what he can do against the Exciles but then as a Rovers fan I would say that!'"
That's pretty much how I feel on the subject too. If he does get thrown in against the Exiles then at least it will give him an idea of where he needs to be - far better for him to get a game than an already tried and failed centre (I don't include Shenton or Bridge in this category as they have shown glimpses of potential at that level).
Yeaman, well I don't see anything in his game that can trouble international teams - he's in a long queue of not quite good enough players who may get a call due to the lack of quality we have in the outside backs.
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| Last year i'd have said Bridge was the best British centre, he probably still could be, but he doesnt half look overweight and a bit slow and he's been on the sidelines more often than not this year. He needs a run of games or i'd be inclined to look elsewhere for the exiles game tbh
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| Has Yeaman failed at international level? I thought he played pretty well in the games he played in 2006. He didn't get picked again after that because of his poor form in the league afterwards (which pretty much mirrored Hull's poor form in the league ever since 2006 ended!)
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| Quote: Wellsy13 "Has Yeaman failed at international level? I thought he played pretty well in the games he played in 2006. He didn't get picked again after that because of his poor form in the league afterwards (which pretty much mirrored Hull's poor form in the league ever since 2006 ended!)'"
best debut i've ever seen....especially when he smashed mark gasnier who then limped off never to return
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| With the England V Exiles game little over 6 weeks away I would say he has a good chance if selection is on current form. I would guess this may not necessarily be the case but more with one eye on the next world cup (with it not been classed as a full international).
Do I think Yeaman is Englands answer in the centres? I dont believe we have any centres now or in the immediate future who are in the same class as their Oz or NZ counterparts but as things stand there are no better English left centres available for selection.
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| And who's to say he won't improve further?
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| Quote: Wellsy13 "And who's to say he won't improve further?'"
27 years old isnt he? In his prime and always seems to rise to the challenge. As mentionned actually played very well down under in the GB side 5 years ago but was made somewhat of a scapegoat for the NZ defeat.
Did actually play and score in the All Golds game in 2007 but got injured denying him the chance to play in the series against the Kiwis.
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| Quote: goochie124 "but Yeamans understanding with Briscoe'"
Yeamon’s understanding with Briscoe is that Briscoe understands that Yeamon will never pass to him
Imagine how good Briscoe would look if he had a wingers centre inside him
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| Quote: Dunbar "Yeamon’s understanding with Briscoe is that Briscoe understands that Yeamon will never pass to him
Imagine how good Briscoe would look if he had a wingers centre inside him'"
imagine how much more credibility your post would have if you could spell Yeaman's name
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| Same old same,win two games and they've got a team of world beaters all of a sudden.
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| Quote: Standee "imagine how much more credibility your post would have if you could spell Yeaman's name'"
Please accept my apologies for my spelling mistake, I promise I won't scour this site for any spelling or grammatical errors that you may have made as that would just be petty
So, you think that Yeaman is the a wingers centre then?
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