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Quote: craigizzard "It's all about injuries, and specifically Rangi Chase.

Saints can function (without necessarily being at their best) without Pryce. Ditto Wigan without Tomkins, Wire without Briers, Leeds without McGuire (although not without McGuire *and* Peacock, by the looks of it). All would make the top 6 even with several key players out. Cas would struggle to make the 8 without Chase. If he stays fit for every round, given the flying start, they have a shot at top 4.'"


Danny Orr would be the bigger injury, as good as Chase is, Orr has given him the freedom to play like he is at the minute. Orr is the organiser and Chase does all the flashy stuff.

Quote: craigizzard "That and we have a small squad so when the injuries bite how will we look?? '"


Really? There's probably 2 players for every position (4 wingers, 4 props etc) who could all play in the first team but can't due to the competition for places.

Quote: craigizzard "Take a look back and yes we have won the games, but honestly how many of the teams we played actually played well.'"


Or maybe, here's a strange concept....maybe teams haven't been allowed to play well against Cas, take the Huddersfield game for example, Cas got up in their faces and forced them into playing badly.

Couple more winnable games coming up then the "tough" games start but from how Leeds have played this year that is a winnable game and St Helens haven't been as good as they have been in the past. I can see Cas coming out of the next month winning at least half the games.

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[b:33tg3xj5]Me:[/b:33tg3xj5] I'm still reeling from the news that someone is considering watching the 1st and 3rd game on Saturday and NOT watching Warrington play. It's like being in Shea Stadium when the Beatles came to town and deciding to nip out for a fag. [b:33tg3xj5]knockersbumpMKII:[/b:33tg3xj5] Is it FOOK, you're good but you're not THAT good, jesus you wanky fans need to get over yourselves, Beatles at the Shea in '65 was a once in a lifetime opportunity for some (despite the following years performance), you can watch a very good team in primrose & yellow play every week if you really wanted to but comparing it to one of the very best music groups of all time in an iconic stadia such as the shea is overegging your importance, you're not even the best team in SL atm:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50086.jpg



Top 8 - definites.
Top 6 - probably.
Top 4 - unlikely.
Top 2 - no chance.

GF winners - unlikely.

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when the score got to 50 we shouted for more, up popped brad davis went over for four..... ......and its no nay never no nay never no more will we face religation...... big barrie mac.' the cas forads av been bob on' [quote="chissitt":3gx4tjo6]Pyeman I wish you would stop talking so much sense. I am in danger of becomming one of your biggest fans. :lol:[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="vastman":3gx4tjo6]Westerman looks the most promising for a long time.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Leyther_Matt":3gx4tjo6]The best proper 'rugby pub' in the country has to be the Boot Room at Cas[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Bolton_Warrior":3gx4tjo6]The only time I ever doubted going to watch Wigan was when we bare face cheated to stay in superleague[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Danril":3gx4tjo6] Last night, despite being poor and not deserving the win, we should have won.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [img:3gx4tjo6]http://www.rlfans.com/images/sigs/castigers.gif[/img:3gx4tjo6]:32116.jpg



Quote: Odemwingie "I don't care if they have been billed as top 4 contenders, they clearly are not top 4 material, expecially without Dobson.

Catalans have been nothing short of shocking untill the last 2 weeks. Mainly down to their playmaker returning.

To finish in the top 4 Cas have 10 very important games. Hudds, Wigan, Saints, Leeds and Wire... home and away. They are the best 5 teams in my opinion. Cas have already taken 2 points from a possible 20 but they will need more than that, they will have to be beating these teams. Last season we took 12 points from a possible 18 against these teams. Without many of those points we wouldn't have been so far up the table. Games against the other side at the top are very important, I am not yet convinced Cas can take enough points from the other teams at the top to stay at the top.'"


Kr have beaten leeds though, with a weaker team than when they played us.

catalans had there playmaker playing when they played us, and greenshields too, so they hardly had a weaker team against us than they did against wigan and wire.

I agree its all about those 20 points though, i'm confident that if our halfs are fit we will take 10 points out of those games, having taken 2 from a possible 2 so far (while wigan have taken 4 from 8 icon_wink.gif ).

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Keep Rangi chase fit and happy and Cas could well be looking at a top 5 finish......without him i cant see you making the 8 .
i've seen Cas live against us and on TV and everything comes through Chase..i'm not suggesting your a 1 man team but he is head and shoulders above anyone else in your team.
But enjoy it while your there..... you never know, the Giants finished 3rd in 2009 when everyone said we wouldn't last the pace !!

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Quote: Therailwayendisuponus. "As a Cas fan I am obviously chuffed to bits with the start we have made. We are playing some of the best rugby I have seen in years and I firmly believe this is more than a flash in the pan. But I am bias. What do you guys think? I am hoping for a top four finish. Do you think it's achievable. I just want to get the opinion of you good folk who follow other clubs. Cheers'"


The league table doesn't lie mate.

Cas are at the top on merit, I think you're pretty nailed on for a play-off place.

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Quote: Ian 77 Redux "Top 8 - definites.
Top 6 - probably.
Top 4 - unlikely.
Top 2 - no chance.

GF winners - unlikely.'"



id go along with that, we have a far more balanced team than some and the main reason we are winning games is because we are prepared to try things other teams dont,we are forced to play like that because we have rangi chase who imho would be the new zealand 6 if it wasnt for benji marshall.

we have improved but to think we are title contenders would be folly we are a top 6 side at best who might ruffle a few feathers come play off time.the important thing for cas is to build on what we have next year and bring in 1 or 2 more class players to play alongside a outstanding crop of youngsters.

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Almost certs for a playoff place already.

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It's great to see Cas on the top of the league, this can only be good for the game.

As previous posters have said though they have yet to play Saints,Wigan,Wire and Leeds yet,if they get a couple of wins against these teams they have to be contenders for the title.

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All I will say is, I don't think we've performed to our potential at all yet this season.

We scraped by Catalans and Hull, lost against Bradford.

The results against Salford, Wakey and Crusaders were comprehensive but we still didn't perform to our best.

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Sometimes you gotta tough it up & we did that with such wins against KR Hudds & FC. The Catalan win I believe was a good 1 especially from 10-0 with their recent away wins. I'd say we were pretty sweet against Crusaders, but generally speaking, not many teams will place to their best ability all 80 minutes.

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Oh I agree

But I just think at times we've been lackdaisical and we haven't had a comprehensive performance.

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Quote: GIANT DAZ "i've seen Cas live against us and on TV and everything comes through Chase..'"


Quote: GIANT DAZ "i'm not suggesting your a 1 man team'"


Erm, I think you are.

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We are far from a one man team. Just about every member of the squad has been excellent. We have three members who have been picked for the England teams. Mathers has been brilliant, Craig Huby has been one of the competitions form props. Nick Youngquest is scoring tries for fun. Kirk Dixon is playing the rugby of his career, and these two are having to compete with Richie Owen for a place. Young Daz Clarke has really burst onto the scene. IMHO the biggest factor has been the signing of Danny Orr, he really knows how to organise the team. There is a lot of quality there.

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We're only a one man team because even our own players don't know what Chase is going to do at times. Hell, I'm sure even Chase surprises himself at times.

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Quote: pyeman "In fairness we have also beaten kr who were billed as top 4 contenders,'"

Billed by Who?
Castleford are the surprise of the season....6 of their 9 games have been at home and Huddersfield are the only "top" team they have played....Wigan, Saints and Wire will be the best way to see where Castleford are (Leeds are fast becoming a Joke under Mac).
Surprised conspiracy theorists from Wakey haven't picked up on your "easy" start to the season...with Quins and Wakey to come meaning you could well be on 18 points before you play another "top" team icon_wink.gif ....and you will be in the top half of the season by the time a decision is made on Licences eusa_whistle.gif

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