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| Quote: tugglesf78 "Wigan have a duty of care over Gaz Hock. There is no way that he would be able to play first team football the day after his ban expires, as he would not be fit enough and could suffer serious injury.
If he is not allowed to return before the ban expires, the ban is effectively 2 years, plus time to get match fit.
That is unfair IMO and means a harsher punishment for players of team sports compared with individuals'"
What's unfair? He'll be getting paid from day 1 even if he's not fit enough for the first team.
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| Quote: Saint Simon "What's unfair? He'll be getting paid from day 1 even if he's not fit enough for the first team.'"
So you are aware the specific conditions of his contract?
What if he is on a pay by play contract?, which would have been a sensible option in this case.
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| Quote: tugglesf78 "So you are aware the specific conditions of his contract?
What if he is on a pay by play contract?, which would have been a sensible option in this case.'"
Well then its his own fault for breaking the law then! I will guarantee you he isnt on a pay per play deal, as any other lower club would have picked him up on better terms
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| If Wigan want to give out a warning to all the youngsters who love our game than definitely he should NOT BE ALLOWED TO TRAIN WITH THEIR TEAM. If you are sayingthis is unfair because its different for an individual as gainst a team player, then I would advise that Wigan must have coaches at the club who are capable of setting out a training plan for him to follow on his own -hey look, evan the Rovers of Hull managed to have Willie train on his own and he came back into their team with only the minimal of training along with teamates.
Lets be kind here and instead of asking on the VT ask the older passholders of Wigan what their opinion is. Somehow after seeing how some of the younger elements of your team have taken to playing lately, (dirty is the only word for it and cowardly too) then I would hope that the old Wigan (who admittedly bent the rules with 'brown envelopes' to buy anything that moved to advance their team but never used the dreaded drugs -for any reason). Go along this road and the RFL will never be able to stamp it out properly, there will always be some loophole that will be found by those that search......grannyfan Cindy
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| Oh, and anyone who's seen him lately knows he isn't exactly unfit! Yes he wont have played with his team mates, but he's fit enough for superleague now
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| Quote: mrs cindy russell "If Wigan want to give out a warning to all the youngsters who love our game than definitely he should NOT BE ALLOWED TO TRAIN WITH THEIR TEAM. If you are sayingthis is unfair because its different for an individual as gainst a team player, then I would advise that Wigan must have coaches at the club who are capable of setting out a training plan for him to follow on his own -hey look, evan the Rovers of Hull managed to have Willie train on his own and he came back into their team with only the minimal of training along with teamates.
Lets be kind here and instead of asking on the VT ask the older passholders of Wigan what their opinion is. Somehow after seeing how some of the younger elements of your team have taken to playing lately, (dirty is the only word for it and cowardly too) then I would hope that the old Wigan (who admittedly bent the rules with 'brown envelopes' to buy anything that moved to advance their team but never used the dreaded drugs -for any reason). Go along this road and the RFL will never be able to stamp it out properly, there will always be some loophole that will be found by those that search......grannyfan Cindy'"
All this from a team where Sean Long is on the payroll......
If my son had done what Gaz Hock had done i would be completley ashamed. If my son had done what Sean Long admits to in his book (in a certain Wigan Night club), i would never, ever talk to him again.
The fact that you condone what longy has done says more about you than Gaz Hock.
People in glass houses and all................
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| 2 years of no RL related activity that means no training with a club. If it means he has to wait to get match fit as well then that's just unlucky isn't it. He should of considered that before putting crap up his nose.
2 years for a recreational drug is a fair punishment and he should be allowed to return. Roid use and similar things used to "cheat" should be a straight lifetime ban
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| as far as i am aware, when track and field athletes are banned for drug use they are effectively barred from working with qualified coaches/conditioning staff for the duration also. this is also effectively a ban on any people with recognised qualifications actively working with someone who is serving a ban.
i would love to kno what these 'other' sports are.
and no, he shouldnt be allowed to train with the squad or even on a one to one basis with the teams staff until his ban is up.
its tough sh*t.
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| I'd love to know how many people on this thread who are preaching holier than thou have never taken a sniff of coke, or had a pull on a joint, or dropped a tab or something similar.
The Sun newspaper ran a paragraph on "DRUG CHEAT" Gareth Hock today. Since when did taking cocaine enhance your performance? True, it was a stupid thing to do, but drugs cheat? Come on.
People are allowed to make mistakes. Hock has made his, he got banned and as far as we're aware, behaved himself. The REAL test is how he conducts himself from now on.
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| Quote: ROBINSON "I'd love to know how many people on this thread who are preaching holier than thou have never taken a sniff of coke, or had a pull on a joint, or dropped a tab or something similar.
The Sun newspaper ran a paragraph on "DRUG CHEAT" Gareth Hock today. Since when did taking cocaine enhance your performance? True, it was a stupid thing to do, but drugs cheat? Come on.
People are allowed to make mistakes. Hock has made his, he got banned and as far as we're aware, behaved himself. The REAL test is how he conducts himself from now on.'"
I agree with that (i havnt done any of those, but have drank too much and too often) and my impression of him is that he isnt a bad person, just perhaps not all that bright and easily led. I saw the drug cheat line and wasn't surprised by the lazy journalism.
I hope he does come back well (he looks more like a prop now) but the 2 year ban should last 2 years
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| Id like to see him back
I like to watch good players, no matter who they play for.
I agree strong messages need to be sent etc..
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| a 2 year ban should mean a 2 year ban.what is it with the RL and this dispensation lark !!
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| This has nothing to with the rfl!. Please pay attention.
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| This has nothing to with the rfl!. Please pay attention.
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| Quote: tugglesf78 "This has nothing to with the rfl!. Please pay attention.'"
So why have the RFL arranged the consultation?
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