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| Quote: dids858 "Crusaders didn't go bust.'"
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| Quote: nick hkr "And where were the RFL when we were litterally minutes away from being put into Liquidation? Lost all our assets and the players we would have been able to bring through chose the team in the top division to go and train or play for. We still managed to bring through players such as Jon Wilkin and Ian Kirke who were polished off by the bigger and better clubs that could afford the facilities that enabled them to do this.
I am not blaming the expansion clubs one little bit I encourage it but my point still stands, while the RFL have wined and dined these expansion clubs they have let traditional clubs that brought a lot to the game over the hundred plus years just die a painful death.
Where were the RFL when Leeds CC slapped Hunslet in the face when promising them a ground suitable for the Super League? When the RFL gave Keighley a massive kick in the nuts and then just let them roll around for years with no help what so ever?
All in the name of expansion that apparently takes 40 years to mature?!!'"
My lord you're an idiot.
Both Hull and Huddersfield were saved by sacrificing expansion clubs. Why? Because it was worth it. Why were Keighley entitled to SL? I must have missed this one, biggest myth going around.
Secondly the RFL didnt make Widnes, Keighley, Halifax, Blackpool or whoever go bust, they did this off their own accord. Its not the RFLs fault Blackpool couldnt write a business plan on the back of a fag packet to save themselves.
Everyones entitled to an opinion.. you're just wrong
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| Quote: Paull3v "bit.ly/eJ716I
Just thought id point out this to some of the expansion bashers. This programme was only set up last year and now 9 players from areas outside the heartlands have signed for other clubs.
Just shows that with the persistence the game is still growing, and the bigger the talent pool availible, the better our game will be.'"
So an RFL funded Championship 1 club based in the Midlands [ say near Stoke/Derby ] with 5/6 dual registered SL juniors , an o/seas quota , an ex SL player as player/coach and the rest made up from local lads like these would be the perfect vehicle to bring this type of player on
Wouldn't you say ?
Cost to the RFL ? 1 million over 4/5 years
How hard can it be ?
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| I think to get the desired effect and properly grow the game through exposure, you'd probably need more than that tbh
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| Quote: Dico "I think to get the desired effect and properly grow the game through exposure, you'd probably need more than that tbh'"
What ' desired effect ' , and ' exposure ' to who ?
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| Quote: Starbug "So an RFL funded Championship 1 club based in the Midlands [ say near Stoke/Derby ] with 5/6 dual registered SL juniors , an o/seas quota , an ex SL player as player/coach and the rest made up from local lads like these would be the perfect vehicle to bring this type of player on
Wouldn't you say ?
Cost to the RFL ? 1 million over 4/5 years
How hard can it be ?'" Why would the governing body create and fund a club to directly compete against its own member clubs? That's not how sport works and not what should be done.
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| Quote: headhunter "Why would the governing body create and fund a club to directly compete against its own member clubs? That's not how sport works and not what should be done.'"
I disagree HH. Look at the Storm funded by News limited, great idea.. as long as they play within the rules.
Starbug, Steve, whatever ones name is. Do you really think you could stroll into say Birmingham or Nottingham, set up a part time club in a small ground and expect to make even a tiny squiggle on their sporting radar. It would take time, money and free tickets aplenty throughout schools. Definately a longer job than a million a year at even Chp level I bet
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| Quote: headhunter "Why would the governing body create and fund a club to directly compete against its own member clubs? That's not how sport works and not what should be done.'"
You mean like the NRL and the Melbourne Storm ?
, Mmmm let me think , ' why would a governing body of a minority regional sport create and fund a club outside it's current heartlands to directly ' compete ' with its own member clubs ' ?
Well , expansion is one , increasing player production is two , increasing fan support is three , providing much needed opposition for Championship clubs to play against is four , not having new clubs overstretching themselves and getting into financial problems is five , providing coaching pathways is six , showing how stability and slow growth works is seven ,
Maybe that is why the RFL should be looking at setting up and funding new clubs outside the heartlands ?
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| Quote: Dico "I disagree HH. Look at the Storm funded by News limited, great idea.. as long as they play within the rules.
Starbug, Steve, whatever ones name is. Do you really think you could stroll into say Birmingham or Nottingham, set up a part time club in a small ground and expect to make even a tiny squiggle on their sporting radar. It would take time, money and free tickets aplenty throughout schools. Definately a longer job than a million a year at even Chp level I bet'"
Who set a time limit , not me , as to the cost ? , about the same as having Toulouse in the Championship , or a fifth of what is provided by SKY for a SL club
Plus nobody has said it would be easy , but it would stand a better chance of being a succes than what we are currently attempting to do
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| Quote: headhunter "Why would the governing body create and fund a club to directly compete against its own member clubs? That's not how sport works and not what should be done.'"
It isn't sport , it is business , have you ever heard of a company called Mcdonalds ?
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Quote: Starbug "It isn't sport , it is business , have you ever heard of a company called Mcdonalds ?'"
Its about both. Based on stats that ive seen on pitchhero ( www.mancuniansrl.com/ and click rankings) Coventry have the 6th biggest traffice through their site for an amateur team, blowing loads of 'hearthlands' teams out of the water. I no alot will have their own sites, but still very encouraging.
Players are also coming though, the demand seems to be there, maybe its time to move a team into Championship 1.
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Quote: Starbug "It isn't sport , it is business , have you ever heard of a company called Mcdonalds ?'"
Its about both. Based on stats that ive seen on pitchhero ( www.mancuniansrl.com/ and click rankings) Coventry have the 6th biggest traffice through their site for an amateur team, blowing loads of 'hearthlands' teams out of the water. I no alot will have their own sites, but still very encouraging.
Players are also coming though, the demand seems to be there, maybe its time to move a team into Championship 1.
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| Quote: Paull3v "Its about both. Based on stats that ive seen on pitchhero (
Too far away
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| Quote: Starbug "Too far away'"
Like Neath and London are close to Flatcap land?
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| Quote: dids858 "Like Neath and London are close to Flatcap land?'"
They are too far away to do what I suggest
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