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Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
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| Quote: rob_a "Apparently Matt Thomason had a good game at Leigh yesterday. Let the game flow and only awarded the first penalty after 60+ mins.'"
1st one against Leigh , 1 st one against sheffield was after around 30 minutes
Dont forget though , us Championship clubs dont ' Cheat ' as much as SL clubs
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| Quote: aspouea "I'm no defender of Child (or any ref for that matter). In fact I don't know anyone who is. However the Crusaders were spectacularly ill-disciplined in terms of high shots yesterday and should have had a heap more given against them, so not sure what Iestyn Harris has to complain about to be honest. In our first two games we have played two of the most poorly disciplined teams in the league - which is presumably why we've been winning the penalty count. I'm sure normality will be restored at Headingley on Friday.
There was a fair few high shots and grapple tackles on display at the stoop on Sunday and not just from the Crusaders. Sat in front of the try line, I had a clear view of some ot the Quinns last ditch try stopping tackles and some of them were far from squeeky clean.
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| sorry lads,just remembered Mr Hicks is now SL reffing - well deserved and good luck to him for 2011
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| There's a certain irony in the way he referees games. Every game I've ever been to each sides supporters are shouting for a penalty at every PTB. Child, more often than not shares that view and gives a high penalty count.
Still the supporters are not happy. It's what makes RL such a great game.
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: Ocker "There's a certain irony in the way he referees games. Every game I've ever been to each sides supporters are shouting for a penalty at every PTB. Child, more often than not shares that view and gives a high penalty count.
Still the supporters are not happy. It's what makes RL such a great game.'"
Fans ' cheating ' , putting their club before the ' good of the game ' ? , never
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| Quote: Starbug "Fans ' cheating ' , putting their club before the ' good of the game ' ? , never
Surely not in a family game.
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| First game I ever saw him do was Rovers vs Wakefield and I thought he was very good (Hull KR lost btw). Since then he has, for me, gone into the category of refs that are impressed by reputation and I dread getting him against the more successful teams (Bentham and Alibert are the fairest to the underdog IMO, for slightly different reasons). He does also tend to get into a rut of blowing for every little thing, which can be frustrating - especially if your team is on the receiving end!
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24148_1315916334.jpg [quote="OFFTHECUFF":1xb0p6sn] Wish i could watch a team like Leigh. [/quote:1xb0p6sn]
[quote="Steve":1xb0p6sn] Dislike Leigh with a passion, but they are a million miles ahead of any other club in this league, a sad fact. [/quote:1xb0p6sn]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_24148.jpg |
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| Quote: sanjunien "agreed,there are some fine refs in the Championship IMO - Mr Hicks & Mr Thomason come to mind - they have both been regular visitors to TO reffing and to Perpignan running the line and I would put either of them ahead of Mr Child.Certainly more consistent anyway.'"
Thomason is easily the best ref in the CC IMO. Lets the game flow which makes for a much more entertaining game. Complete opposite of James 'Centre of Attention' Child.
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| Crusaders were lucky not to get penalised more yesterday for the number of high shots they were doing. Harris needs to look at the tackling technique of his players as I think a tougher referee would have used cards yesterday to stop the persistent high shots.
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| From experience, I can tell you he's a humourless sod on the field as well.
He worked a touch tournament I was playing in a few years ago and I've never seen an official less interested in a bit of banter and more up his own backside.
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: Kelvin's Ferret "Crusaders were lucky not to get penalised more yesterday for the number of high shots they were doing. Harris needs to look at the tackling technique of his players as I think a tougher referee would have used cards yesterday to stop the persistent high shots.'"
Its a well known fact the Australians ' cheat ' more than british sportsmen , thats why you lot used to do quite well in SL , wereas now your rubbish
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| I've not seen that Leaguefan character on here yet. Doesn't he tend to try and turn these threads around and pour scorn upon the players and coaches because he feels that the referees are infallable and are all blameless?
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| Quote: Londo06 "I felt like shouting out something along the lines of "the players don't respect you, and the fans certainly don't!" as it is clear that all last season he was just not up to it in the eyes of the players, and he has continued to be poor again this season. An average youngster would be dropped to the lower grades if they are going through a bad spell, and from watching most championship games last year it appears there is better available with a number of young referees. He needs to go away and regain a little of what made him a poster boy referee.'"
That'll be his sunbed tan.
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| Quote: Mild Rover "First game I ever saw him do was Rovers vs Wakefield and I thought he was very good (Hull KR lost btw). Since then he has, for me, gone into the category of refs that are impressed by reputation and I dread getting him against the more successful teams (Bentham and Alibert are the fairest to the underdog IMO, for slightly different reasons). He does also tend to get into a rut of blowing for every little thing, which can be frustrating - especially if your team is on the receiving end!'" If I remember right wasn't it Child that hammered us with about 12 penalties against Saints when we were by far the most disiplined side in the comp up to that point?
If it is I remember even the SKY guys saying that we were very hard done by that night.
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| I am convinced the quality of refereeing has deteriorated since they went full-time. Child is a good example of it.
Why?
When they were part-time, they could have a decent-paid main job and so were far from totally dependent on the RFL money. Just as well, too. This meant (IMO) you tended to get guys who where were both good at the referring job - because they enjoyed it and wanted to do it - and could afford to do it. Kirkpatrick (who IMO developed from a struggling rookie to a first-rate official) was a good example. And remember Cummings was a teacher.
Now its full-time, the salaries on offer are hardly likely to be enough to make a guy rich, I suspect? And what does the guy do when he has to retire from being a ref when all he has done is be a referee for years? So does anyone think that - in the main - you are always going to get the very best candidates for the job?
The cynics and conspiracy-therorists might also say that a part-timer, with decent outside income, might be less amenable to following any alleged "team orders" from the RFL than a full-timer might be.
If I was dictator, I would allow both full-time and part-time SL referees. And they would get picked on performance regardless. We'd not have lost Kirkpatrick that way, IIRC?
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