It isn't a sell-out because of the pathetic Rugby League fans who won't get off their backsides because they would rather complain. RU fans get on board with their concepts and buy tickets and don't complain.

There really isn't anything to complain about due to the quality of the venue, the price of the tickets, the product on show etc.

Did you go

SL fans mate , get it right

Folk being unable to afford neither the time nor the finances makes them pathetic?

Cardiff is a a 400 mile round trip for a lot of folk. You also need to fork out for accomodation as well. Tickets might be cheap, but the overall cost is a lot of money for some folk. The push to sell tickets coincides with the close season, when supporters are buying season tickets and when they're forking out for christmas.

Cardiff might be a great city, but do you go to rainy, cold Magic or do you have a cheaper trip in London or get a bit of sun in Perpignan? Do you spend a load of money going to Cardiff for the weekend or do you use that money to go to a few away matches against teams where the atmophere will be a lot better?

As well season tickets, the increased costs for away matches over home and the long distance trips, you've got the price of jerseys and merch, not to mention your Sky and Premier Sports subscriptions. There's also Challenge Cup final, Grand Final, WCC, 4N's and Championship matches.

Magic this year is also at the beginning of the season. The standard of the first few rounds of a new season is not as good as later; the refs are always a lot more keen to enforce the rules and players are not match fit or still gelling.

We've all got bills to pay, people to feed and jobs to go to. If your disposable income is limited you have make to decisions about what you can afford and what will be worth going to. Forking out a fair bit of money to spend a large portion of your weekend travelling, stay in a Holiday Inn and sit in a stadium with little atmophere because it is a third full at best and watch what you know is a lower standard of rugby does not seem as appealing as the other options available to you.

If I remember rightly, you're studying Marketing. If I have remembered rightly the mind boggles trying to figure out why you would say this.

So you haven't answered the question then? You need to sell it and not just to SL fans but for Cardiff people otherwise why play it in Cardiff rather than in Leeds, City of Manchester, Anfield???

For a change even why not try Newcastle as well? Not as far North as Edinburgh etc. Also can attract locals and maybe send Gateshead's way for starters!

I don't know if it's been mentioned but i've seen suggestions of Reebok/city of manchester etc but i've always thought the perfect location would be Sheffield. Either of the stadiums would be of good size, it's close to the heartlands so there will be alot of fans there, but also it would promote rugby league in an area where it is not that popular. I say before we go off expanding we should focus getting more people watching the game in and around the heatlands. I definitely feel there is potential for rugby league in Sheffield.

Agree with that! If Wrexham Crusaders move has proved anything it's that 'expansion' on the heartland fringes is the way to go!

The Magic Weekend concept is just an overdrive of rugby league. I do wonder if anyone actually watched all seven games in the stadium this weekend. At home I switched over the Harlequins and Catalans game for the rugby union game between England and Italy. By the second half of the Wakefield and Castleford game I was falling asleep.

In fact I only watched three rugby league games fully this weekend – Huddersfield v Warrington, St Helens v Wigan and Leeds v Bradford. I was far too bored of the game by the time Hull FC and Hull KR came on. But that is a game I’d normally watch if I had the chance.

It’s far too much in one weekend for anyone to cope with. However this weekend should have been up north and ideally at Elland Road.

Damon , what has the weather been like in Leeds this weekend ? Seriously would LUFC be happy having 7 RL matches played in the middle of the football season ?

There is no ' perfect ' time or place that will bring in more than 30/35 percent of SL clubs total fan bases , it just won't happen

Yes. And I wasn't alone. And yes there were easily 30,000 in the stadium over the course of yesterday. And the same today.

Alk this thread shows - as similar threads have shown over the past five years - is that people who don't like the event and won't come, don't like the event.

So they want to make it worse for the fans who do go and enjoy it.

Armchair fans, hey?

There’s no doubt that Millennium Magic is a festival of super league and if it’s profitable then I hope it carries on. Ideally I’d want it in Leeds, but as starbug has pointed out – it just simply isn’t ideal at this time of the season.

I loved the concept on TV the first time, but I just seem to be watching less of it each year. But as tb pointed out, people who go actually enjoy the event and for that alone I hope that it carries on and it probably will carry on. However from the position of an armchair fan – it was an overload.

Next year we could do with some special effects that make it look like more people are in the stadium. We could make things even more interesting and get teams of lesser ability to pair up and compete. For example the best of Harlequins, Catalans & Salford v the best of Castleford, Wakefield and Crusaders. Which ever team wins gets the two points for the respective clubs that have contributed players to the winning side.

Won’t ever happen though..