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[quote="King Street Cat":1wa9s43t]Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.[/quote:1wa9s43t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6731.jpg



Quote: gutterfax "...er, did I miss something? I thought they did...only for the team to up sticks to Wrexham....are you suggesting that while the RFL are at it, they should also add a SL team to Brentford and Charlton as well
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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: headhunter "For the person who asked why I responded to obvious trolling, this is why.'"

er...hold on there buddy. Are you calling me a troll? If so, why?

Someone posted that south wales was a hotbed of RL and SL should get a team in there now.....I suspect that their tongue was firmly in their cheek when they did so....as was mine when I responded.

...is this form of bad humour now classified as trolling? When was this decided? Was there a meeting....a vote? Or is it as usual, that anyone who has a differing view from yours is dismissed out of hand with a one liner....... d040.gif

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[quote="King Street Cat":1wa9s43t]Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.[/quote:1wa9s43t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6731.jpg



Quote: gutterfax "er...hold on there buddy. Are you calling me a troll?'"
No.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: headhunter "No.'"

Oops... icon_surprised.gifops: sorry.

The average gate at for SL last year was 11,643....With 7 games a week giving you a weekly average of 81,501......so every SL supporter would need to buy a ticket to sell out MM.
40,000 each day would be good IMO

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Quote: gutterfax "Oops... Or half of them could buy weekend tickets?

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: Wellsy13 "Or half of them could buy weekend tickets?'"


That's what I meant. To sell out, all of them would have to buy weekend tickets.

I think that if the RFL/SL are going to push ahead with the MM, they need to find a way of getting the clubs to collect payment for MM with Season Tickets and maybe add a quid to the entry on the day prices of regular matches all season, with walk up fans collecting "points' that count as savings against MM tickets. You could even get the buy in from hotel chains etc so the points can be used that way.
This will cushion the cost associated with the weekend and maybe push up the attendance. I would also suggest that deals are done with the train companies to get travel to and from the heartlands sorted in such a way that if 60,000 wanted to make the journey by train they could.
I still say that Wembley should be given a go....but it would need a 50-60,000 gate each day to make it work.......and maybe a split broadcast between SKY and the BBC? Wales and Edinburgh are not going to get the "media" intersted and the only real benefit of the wekend is currently being received by Cardiff hoteliers and publicans.

Crusaders didn't grow as a result of MM and Scottish RL saw no tangible benefit. If the RFL are using MM to try to grow the game it would gain more benefit from media coverage and we all know where the Media are based.

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Quote: gutterfax "That's what I meant. To sell out, all of them would have to buy weekend tickets.

I think that if the RFL/SL are going to push ahead with the MM, they need to find a way of getting the clubs to collect payment for MM with Season Tickets and maybe add a quid to the entry on the day prices of regular matches all season, with walk up fans collecting "points' that count as savings against MM tickets. You could even get the buy in from hotel chains etc so the points can be used that way.
This will cushion the cost associated with the weekend and maybe push up the attendance. I would also suggest that deals are done with the train companies to get travel to and from the heartlands sorted in such a way that if 60,000 wanted to make the journey by train they could.
I still say that Wembley should be given a go....but it would need a 50-60,000 gate each day to make it work.......and maybe a split broadcast between SKY and the BBC? Wales and Edinburgh are not going to get the "media" intersted and the only real benefit of the wekend is currently being received by Cardiff hoteliers and publicans.

Crusaders didn't grow as a result of MM and Scottish RL saw no tangible benefit. If the RFL are using MM to try to grow the game it would gain more benefit from media coverage and we all know where the Media are based.'"

If the average gate is 11k, then all the SL clubs combined would mean 151k. Only half the clubs are at home in any one round remember.

As for Wembley, as good as it would be, it might harm the CC. If it needs to be in London, use the Olympic Stadium maybe?

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: Wellsy13 "If the average gate is 11k, then all the SL clubs combined would mean 151k. Only half the clubs are at home in any one round remember.'"


Without getting into a maths bunfight......the point is that away support is generally 15 to 20% of a gate......which means of the 80,000 odd a week (11k x 7 games) at games, 66k are home fans. The same the following week....so about a 132k universe to get 80k two day tickets sold......either way.....if planned and executed correctly, a "save as you spend" scheme would be good. Walk up fans get a share of their gate money back in points to redeem for MM....ST holders get their MM ticket as part of their initial cost......
Let's face it...2 night accom, travel, tickets, beer, food etc runs to a fair expense for a weekend away.....

Quote: Wellsy13 "As for Wembley, as good as it would be, it might harm the CC. If it needs to be in London, use the Olympic Stadium maybe?'"

2 words......RUNNING TRACK!

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Quote: headhunter "For the person who asked why I responded to obvious trolling, this is why.'"

i mean this in all seriousness that the OP is clearly on a wind up and when people get worked up by them, they get what they want.

its a sad kind of person living that kind of existence. setting up a new account, then posting things which will intentionally wind people up and also damage the supposed cause they represent

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Quote: Toulouse for super L "www.therhinos.co.uk/news/15754.php

Magic weekend is heading for a sell out. This clearly shows Rugby League is thriving in south Wales, this opportunity cant be missed. '"


You mean like the last time, when the rfl put Celtic Crusaders into SL, only for them to move magic weekend to Scotland!!! a046.gif

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[b:6jl68bf5][quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]Please tell me what a coach’s job is.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [/b:6jl68bf5] [quote="Matt89":6jl68bf5]phipps knows best (everything about rugby league) so don't disagree!!!![/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Huddersfield1895 AKA dally messenger":6jl68bf5] Having read the article several times I'm still confused[/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]I shall keep posting on this thread and derail it as much as I want to.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [b:6jl68bf5][quote="PHIPPS":6jl68bf5]Sadly for Wigan as soon as Maguire gets an offer from an NRL club he will be on the plane home before you can say 'meat and potato pie'[/quote:6jl68bf5] [/b:6jl68bf5] [quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]I like you Phipps. I like your style.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Chorlton RL":6jl68bf5]As far as gauging the potential in the South West, I'd have thought the rumoured Wembley international double-header at the end of the season would be good way to do this. [/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]You really annoy me. Like genital warts, but worse.[/quote:6jl68bf5]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50156.jpg



Quote: dally messenger "i mean this in all seriousness that the OP is clearly on a wind up and when people get worked up by them, they get what they want.

its a sad kind of person living that kind of existence. setting up a new account, then posting things which will intentionally wind people up and also damage the supposed cause they represent'"


www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague ... ml&BID=480

Further evidence of the same old guard small town clubs repeatedly failing. This game really needs to wake up and expand
Quote: dally messenger " i mean this in all seriousness that the OP is clearly on a wind up and when people get worked up by them, they get what they want.

its a sad kind of person living that kind of existence. setting up a new account, then posting things which will intentionally wind people up and also damage the supposed cause they represent'"


I joined september 2010, hardly say a new member.

Quote: dally messenger "
You mean like the last time, when the rfl put Celtic Crusaders into SL'"


No not like last time, super League in south Wales was never given a chance. They were the whipping boys for one season, hardly encouraging the masses to get behind them. If there were a competitive super league team in south Wales it would take off.

www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague ... ml&BID=480

Further evidence of the same old guard small town clubs repeatedly failing. This game really needs to wake up and expand


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Quote: Toulouse for super L "I joined september 2010, hardly say a new member.

No not like last time, super League in south Wales was never given a chance. They were the whipping boys for one season, hardly encouraging the masses to get behind them. If there were a competitive super league team in south Wales it would take off.


I've sussed it - you're Albert Rosenfeld?!! icon_eek.gif

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Quote: Toulouse for super L "I joined september 2010, hardly say a new member.
'"


Under this id, yes.


btw: I hate to pull someone up for derailing their own thread: but according to your own thread title, this is a thread about Millennium Magic ticket sales. The other crap can go in the threads dedicated to those subjects.

Or I'll conclude it is just a troll, and lock it.

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