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50156_1266757028.jpg [b:6jl68bf5][quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]Please tell me what a coach’s job is.[/quote:6jl68bf5]
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[quote="Matt89":6jl68bf5]phipps knows best (everything about rugby league) so don't disagree!!!![/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Huddersfield1895 AKA dally messenger":6jl68bf5]
Having read the article several times I'm still confused[/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]I shall keep posting on this thread and derail it as much as I want to.[/quote:6jl68bf5]
[b:6jl68bf5][quote="PHIPPS":6jl68bf5]Sadly for Wigan as soon as Maguire gets an offer from an NRL club he will be on the plane home before you can say 'meat and potato pie'[/quote:6jl68bf5]
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[quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]I like you Phipps. I like your style.[/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Chorlton RL":6jl68bf5]As far as gauging the potential in the South West, I'd have thought the rumoured Wembley international double-header at the end of the season would be good way to do this. [/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]You really annoy me. Like genital warts, but worse.[/quote:6jl68bf5]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50156.jpg |
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| Quote: Sheldon "It would appear the op is correct and the rfl have changed the quota rules, again.
Does it matter?
If overseas players are deemed by the club in question to be the best for the job then so be it.
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23521.jpg [quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x]
[quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy
The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
Regards,
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| Quote: PHIPPS "Does it matter?
If overseas players are deemed by the club in question to be the best for the job then so be it.'"
Good point, close the academys now and save cash to spend on Aussies.
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50156_1266757028.jpg [b:6jl68bf5][quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]Please tell me what a coach’s job is.[/quote:6jl68bf5]
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[quote="Matt89":6jl68bf5]phipps knows best (everything about rugby league) so don't disagree!!!![/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Huddersfield1895 AKA dally messenger":6jl68bf5]
Having read the article several times I'm still confused[/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]I shall keep posting on this thread and derail it as much as I want to.[/quote:6jl68bf5]
[b:6jl68bf5][quote="PHIPPS":6jl68bf5]Sadly for Wigan as soon as Maguire gets an offer from an NRL club he will be on the plane home before you can say 'meat and potato pie'[/quote:6jl68bf5]
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[quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]I like you Phipps. I like your style.[/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Chorlton RL":6jl68bf5]As far as gauging the potential in the South West, I'd have thought the rumoured Wembley international double-header at the end of the season would be good way to do this. [/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]You really annoy me. Like genital warts, but worse.[/quote:6jl68bf5]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50156.jpg |
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| Quote: Sheldon "Good point, close the academys now and save cash to spend on Aussies.'"
Whatever.
At the end of the day clubs are ultimately remembered and their success measured by winning things. I'm no Hull KR fan but if their people think that by signing a large proportion of non English players that will bring them success who cares? Winning things = money, either directly or indirectly.
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23521.jpg [quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x]
[quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy
The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
Regards,
Matthew[/quote:3e09qe5x]:23521.jpg |
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| The development of the game in the country?
Even as a hull fc fan I'd rather the game flourished around the world than my club ever win sl.
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| Quote: saint mully "I thought clubs were allowed only 5 Non-federation players which included Quota players so you can't have more than 5 anyway? It can't be 5 Quota players PLUS 5 Quotas, that would be a huge step back.
But I'm confused as to the Mason case, if you can only have 5 what does it matter whether he's got a Tongan passport and counts as Quota or not, he's Non-Fed trained anyway, surely he's not exempt from that as he's only just coing over? I presume the reason HKR currently have more than 5 is because of the players who they already had before the rules coming in being exempt. (the "Stanley Gene loophole"icon_wink.gif.'" Well its looks like Ben Galea and Jake Webster are now both due to come off.
This wasn't how most people including the clubs understood it.
Now seeing as we now have exemptions on Lovegrove,Vella,Newton and Fisher with Galea and Webster now counting as well we only have 4 that count on any lists those being Mason,Dobson,Clinton and Green.
Now to say that is idiotic is a massive understatement.
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Standing up to the forum bully.
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| Quote: Sheldon "The development of the game in the country?
Even as a hull fc fan I'd rather the game flourished around the world than my club ever win sl.'"
I'm with you on both points
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23521.jpg [quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x]
[quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy
The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
Regards,
Matthew[/quote:3e09qe5x]:23521.jpg |
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| Why would webster come off rw?
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| Quote: Sheldon "Why would webster come off rw?'" TBH im trying to get my head around it but from looking at it he now falls in the pre feb 08 group I think.
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23521.jpg [quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x]
[quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy
The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
Regards,
Matthew[/quote:3e09qe5x]:23521.jpg |
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| Quote: Roverswall "TBH im trying to get my head around it but from looking at it he now falls in the pre feb 08 group I think.'"
Surely the pre 08 has been abolished?
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| It would be clearer if the RFL just showed each clubs and stated how many places they have left rather than trying to explain it like this. It only confuses people and is about as clear as mud!
Additionally, why don't the common sense thing and abolish the quota/non-federated categories, rename it overseas list and just cap it at five. Simples to me.
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| Quote: Sheldon "It would appear the op is correct and the rfl have changed the quota rules, again.
It IS unlikely. To have 10, you would need to sign 5 Aussies/Kiwis aged 18 so that they counted as Fed Trained. It's possible, but unlikely.
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| Quote: Sheldon "Surely the pre 08 has been abolished?'"
Nope
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| seems to me that hull kr have discovered a loophole the rfl missed and are now simply using it,and the rfl are going with it as they are too late to do anything else.you cant rely have a dig at hkr about it in a results driven envoirement as they are simply trying to do the best they can in the short term.
the rfl really need to adress this asap though as having so many overseas players in super league is not conducive to the development of our indigenous young players.as i have stated on here before the rfl need to give some financial incentative to clubs using/developing home grown players, as well as capping it to 5 overseas players regardless of kolpak/loopholes etc.
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| Quote: Fully "Additionally, why don't the common sense thing and abolish the quota/non-federated categories, rename it overseas list and just cap it at five. Simples to me.'"
Because it would then be confusing with, for instance, French players. They would either then count on the overseas list, which isn't helpful, or would be an anamoly in that they are from overseas yet don't count on the overseas list. The non-fed trained category is exactly what it says, players who weren't trained in the RLEF.
Quote: Fully "It would be clearer if the RFL just showed each clubs and stated how many places they have left rather than trying to explain it like this. It only confuses people and is about as clear as mud! '"
Absolutely
I don't see why the RFL can't publish on the SL website a list of the homegrown, fed trained and non-fed trained and quota players in each squad. Then everybody knows.
Additionally I don't see why individual clubs cant also do this on their own website.
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50156_1266757028.jpg [b:6jl68bf5][quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]Please tell me what a coach’s job is.[/quote:6jl68bf5]
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[quote="Matt89":6jl68bf5]phipps knows best (everything about rugby league) so don't disagree!!!![/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Huddersfield1895 AKA dally messenger":6jl68bf5]
Having read the article several times I'm still confused[/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]I shall keep posting on this thread and derail it as much as I want to.[/quote:6jl68bf5]
[b:6jl68bf5][quote="PHIPPS":6jl68bf5]Sadly for Wigan as soon as Maguire gets an offer from an NRL club he will be on the plane home before you can say 'meat and potato pie'[/quote:6jl68bf5]
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[quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]I like you Phipps. I like your style.[/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Chorlton RL":6jl68bf5]As far as gauging the potential in the South West, I'd have thought the rumoured Wembley international double-header at the end of the season would be good way to do this. [/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]You really annoy me. Like genital warts, but worse.[/quote:6jl68bf5]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50156.jpg |
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| Quote: BigRob "
I don't see why the RFL can't publish on the SL website a list of the homegrown, fed trained and non-fed trained and quota players in each squad. Then everybody knows.
Additionally I don't see why individual clubs cant also do this on their own website.'"
Because individual clubs have far more important things to worry about; ie trying to win superleague. I couldn't care what nationality the players are. Winning SL is all that matters.
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